I need some understanding please.

[unbendingsea]

I understand that there might have been a thread about this but i am still going to ask. What happened to Too Human and by that, why did SK hault on TH2 production. What happened to TH, like why wasnt it a big hit? Did SK lose money on the sale or did they not make enough. Can someone please explain this to me....

[FoxbaT]

Yep all of this have been discussed over and over again.

But as a man full of good intentions that I am, I will try to summarize it to you.

TH (Too Human) had several problems during it´s development, SK (Silicon Knights) bought the technology to create the game from EPIC, but EPIC failed to provide everything they put in the purchase contract, SK kept pressuring them to deliver exactly what was agreed, until a point where SK said enougth is enougth.

They break with EPIC, started to develop their own gaming engine so they could release TH. The highlights of the break was an email mistakenly sent by one of EPIC´s development leaders stating that everything that was not the main branch (in this case, Gear of War 2 that was under development at that time) should be in "punt mode", in other terms, they (EPIC) would do nothing about it.

This commercial relationship went to the ground, and SK started to fill in papers to sue EPIC for their break of contract, and for all the losses SK would have with the delays, etc. EPIC says that TH engine is a ripoff of their own technology, the Unreal Engine. So because of this litigation, any new development is stuck.

TH release date got delayed because of all of these problems, but finally the game came out. It wasn´t a great sale success but no one can say that it went bad. TH title is owned by SK, but the money to make it was provided by Microsoft Studios. As Microsoft is a partner of both companies and as the litigation process is far away from being over, this situation also helped to block the continuation of the trilogy.

I think that this sums up the situation. I am sure other people here would be able to explain it better or with a higher level of depth, but in general lines, that´s it.

Apologies if something related here is not entirely correct

[Sevens]

You have my understanding.

[Thor to the Core]

anyone know how many copies this game has sold to date?

[ThEoRy]

anyone know how many copies this game has sold to date?

More than you would think yet not as much as you would like.

Seriously.

[Thor to the Core]

More than you would think yet not as much as you would like.

Seriously.

seriously. can i get a number?

[All Knowing...]

~700 000 give or take a few...

[FoxbaT]

~700 000 give or take a few...

~850,000 was the number I had in the back of my mind...

[Thor to the Core]

~700 000 give or take a few...

can i get a source on that?

[lordhering]

The total number has changed but the latest vgchartz (not accurate) has TH @ 720K:

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/22053/too-human/

This number has been as high as 845K on this site so there is no way to truly know how many until SK releases a number after trial.

[FoxbaT]

The total number has changed but the latest vgchartz (not accurate) has TH @ 720K:

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/22053/too-human/

This number has been as high as 845K on this site so there is no way to truly know how many until SK releases a number after trial.

Yes, exactly, I remember now it being around 850k on that website... thanks for the source!

[ThEoRy]

The total number has changed but the latest vgchartz (not accurate) has TH @ 720K:

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/22053/too-human/

This number has been as high as 845K on this site so there is no way to truly know how many until SK releases a number after trial.

They've had that same number on that site for over 3 years. Surely it's sold more copies since then. Have they considered the digital sales as well? That had to kick in a few numbers too.

I'd go as high as around 1.5 mil at least. It was a slow burning game.