Silicon Knights: 'Voluminous Evidence' Shows Epic's Wrongdoing
Silicon Knights is on a mission to expose Unreal Engine maker Epic Games' "misconduct." During the holiday break, the developer behind Too Human suffered a slight setback when a judge granted a motion to exclude testimony from financial analyst Terry Lloyd, who was being leveraged to provide an expert opinion about the damages sought. In an email to IndustryGamers, however, Silicon Knights played down the court motion and said it's looking forward to making sure the "voluminous evidence" against Epic is heard by the jury.
The response from Silicon Knights was as follows:
Denis Dyack says, “Terry Lloyd being excluded from testifying at trial is really one of the few rulings that Epic can say went their way."
While we are certainly disappointed that the Court decided that Mr. Lloyd’s testimony on damages was not appropriate for trial, we look forward to putting on evidence of the damage that Unreal Engine 3 caused to Silicon Knights, which was substantial and very tangible. For those not familiar with the legal process, it is important to understand that the jury decides damages and will hear evidence from many people and see many case documents. Mr. Lloyd’s testimony was only one piece.
It remains an inescapable fact that Epic is going to trial for Fraud, Unfair Competition, Deceptive Trade Practices, Breach of Warranty, and Breach of Contract, and the voluminous evidence of Epic’s wrongdoing will be heard by the jury.
We also think it is important that the full extent of the rulings in the case be known: Epic filed over 20 separate motions to exclude essentially every aspect of the voluminous evidence against them, including all of Silicon Knights’ expert witnesses (beyond Mr. Lloyd) and all of the third-party information regarding Unreal Engine 3. Other than this one ruling on Mr. Lloyd, they were not successful.
Silicon Knights has patiently waited for five years for this trial and is looking forward to Epic’s misconduct finally being aired in the light of day. We are glad that there was such interest from the press during the holidays, as this case is important for the video games industry. It is a classic struggle between a small and a large company and something that should be covered factually and accurately. We look forward to the facts being brought into the public eye so that everyone can finally understand what truly happened to Silicon Knights and others who licensed the Unreal Engine 3 from Epic Games.
For those of you who haven't been following the case, Silicon Knights essentially accused Epic of not providing proper Unreal Engine support to the developer during Too Human's development, choosing instead to move company resources towards the development of Gears of War.
Denis Dyack
Chief Creative Officer
Precursor Games
I want you guys to win this so that you can do what you guys love the most, making videogames!
We will be celebrating when the time comes.You can count on it DD!
It really sucks that a lot of these companies are already on the third game of their trilogies while others are starting new trilogies(Halo 4,5,6) and We're still on just one TH. it really makes me mad that all of this **** happened to you guys, I hope you guys can come up on top when all is said and done.![]()
Too Human Is My Crack!
Denis not sure if your reading this but I really hope that this goes SK's way! It doesnt matter how TH may have not lived up to expectations but the fact that EPIC screwed you guys over and didnt live up to their contractual obligations is reason enough for them to get the book thrown at them.
wow... the article on Game Informer was misleading then. It's such a relief to read this, specially coming from DD. We support you and salute you good sir, the (silicon) knights will prevail!
Good news I'm glad to hear it.![]()
I appreciate that this official statement has (also) been added here.
Best wishes, Denis. Hopefully the last 6 years hasn't changed that making games is still fun. Here's hoping that this stuff clears up in a time frame that lets SK get back to enjoying that ASAP.
This is awesome, I hope this trial is not consuming all your energy mr. Denis. Best of luck to you and SK!
The truth shall prevail and I believe that justice will be done.
Thanks AKAtheDopeman!
To Denis' point, I have always felt some companies are terribly self-serving and manipulative and this is a chance to expose a long-time offender (Epic). A question to ask is "how many more are out there that manipulate contractual agreements and further their own pursuits screwing over who know how many others?".
"Hi, I see you have an axe the size of a small continent. I can summon a bear that shoots lasers out of its mouth. You might want to go get another axe."-Darrell
I saw a page on Gamespot about How SK lost the trial, is it true?
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yep they got smoked
Just because Im a priest doesn't mean I don't get off on watching rogues die.......? Wrong game? oh.... Just because Im a defender doesn't mean I like getting hit in the head, it just means Im better at it. I think.... Im dizzy.
http://penny-arcade.com/report/edito...-epic-lawsuit-
basically, denis, you tried to steal someone elses intellectual property, in this case, epic's unreal engine. you used the lame excuse that since you re-wrote it so heavily, it was now silicom kinights' engine, except thats pure BS because the majority of it was still epic's code.
you lied, about everything. your lawsuit was bull, and you know it. you lied about what content would be in too human, from 4 player co-op to the DLC store, to just about eerything else. no sequels, a tiny game world consisting of nothing but a few hack and slash dungeons, where was the "epic" story we were promised?
you're completely out of it, and i hope you never work in the industry again. you being named to canada's gamer hall of fame is a terrible joke.
Also, trying to say that epic gave you a broken copy of UNreal Ed is a joke too. why do that when epic has always and will always make the majority of their money off of the unreal engine? why doesn't any other company come out and accuse them of that? look at the great games ubisoft has made with that engine(and that's just one example ). face it, you're just incompetent, and you're too arrogant and self deluded to admit that. blaming epic working on gears for your own laziness and inability to properly use their engine to get the result you wanted is pathetic and childish. Hell half of the guys and girls on the beyond unreal forums can use the free version of the engine that comes with every copy of unreal tournement and make better games and game levels than you could ever hope to make. instead of whining at epic and attempting this farce of a lawsuit you could ahve just asked any number of those cats for help.
You're an awful person. I hope you wind up penniless, you fraud.
also, Denis, how do you feel about not only having destroyed what could have been an epic trilogy, but also sending your company to complete destruction? How can you face your coworkers, or even look yourself in the mirror in the morning? just shameful, son.