Surrealism in cyberspace

[RuneMaster]

Ah...the emptiness of cyberspace. That would explain all the invisible walls around vegetation, closed doorways early on? :P Such things a casual gamer would hate so much but in the context of the universe, makes complete sense.

In fact my only gamer complaint about the place was the lack of etherial music. Kind of like the sort once you initially enter with Freya. I usually must play some of the "Portal" tracks in the background when exploring there.

OK. Cyberspace represents a barren internet. (Some great theories here, by the way.)
But, what of Nidhogg, that purple cloud?

What is the purpose of such a thing technologically speacking? If memory serves, the creature was to destroy the World Tree. Was it, in essence, consuming unused or bad information?

Can someone better explain.

[Mattpfeil]

Ah...the emptiness of cyberspace. That would explain all the invisible walls around vegetation, closed doorways early on? :P Such things a casual gamer would hate so much but in the context of the universe, makes complete sense.

In fact my only gamer complaint about the place was the lack of etherial music. Kind of like the sort once you initially enter with Freya. I usually must play some of the "Portal" tracks in the background when exploring there.

OK. Cyberspace represents a barren internet. (Some great theories here, by the way.)
But, what of Nidhogg, that purple cloud?

What is the purpose of such a thing technologically speacking? If memory serves, the creature was to destroy the World Tree. Was it, in essence, consuming unused or bad information?

Can someone better explain.

Maybe Nidhogg is just a virus run rampant or a program used to keep cyberspace somewhat orderly, deleting unused files or obsolete data, and it has gotten out of hand in the centuries since someone last checked on it.

[Guirec730]

Gotten out of hand is a bit of an understatement. I don't know of too many computer viruses that can go rogue and turn into a flesh eating virus in REAL LIFE.

Flesh that it turns into ZOMBIES.

Man, Too Human is a sweet game.

[Mattpfeil]

Gotten out of hand is a bit of an understatement. I don't know of too many computer viruses that can go rogue and turn into a flesh eating virus in REAL LIFE.

Flesh that it turns into ZOMBIES.

Man, Too Human is a sweet game.

What do you mean turn into a real life virus?

[Guirec730]

Remember when Hel demonstrates Nidhogg eating the skull of a dead trooper in her throne room? It's related to the Undead synthesis if I'm not mistaken.

[JH1975]

Remember when Hel demonstrates Nidhogg eating the skull of a dead trooper in her throne room? It's related to the Undead synthesis if I'm not mistaken.

yeah she does i was always a little confused about that. And to me cyberspace should be sort of like the matrix in that its just your mind in the world and if you know that you should be able to manipulate it very easily

[Artemis32]

Remember when Hel demonstrates Nidhogg eating the skull of a dead trooper in her throne room?

I've just watched this to double check and the Skull looks like it comes from the Soldiers teeth alone?

[Guirec730]

Yeah, it's weird. I think she was illustrating her dominance over the nidhogg virus there. Which might mean that now the bloody thing is just cruising around making zombies all willy-nilly.

[Artemis32]

Yeah, it's weird. I think she was illustrating her dominance over the nidhogg virus there. Which might mean that now the bloody thing is just cruising around making zombies all willy-nilly.

I'm not a hundred percent on this but I get the impression that the Nidhogg Virus is only derived from Nidhogg, because the Norns say nothing about it being able to bring things back to life. So my guess is Nidhogg either works differently in reality than it does in Cyberspace or Hel has modified it.

[Artemis32]

Yeah, it's weird. I think she was illustrating her dominance over the nidhogg virus there. Which might mean that now the bloody thing is just cruising around making zombies all willy-nilly.

I've been mulling over this... and if a Skull can be created from a tooth alone it means Hel can effectively make more than one Zombie from one corpse. Thor even states that he thinks he's killed the same warrior seven times. This ultimately raises a question over Baldur...


I love this whole multi faceted story and its one of Too Humans biggest strengths and I don't think games don't do enough of it these days imo.

Side Note: I have quite a few friends who couldn't get on with the gameplay but are interested in the sequels purely on the strength of the story.

[Artemis32]

Yeah, it's weird. I think she was illustrating her dominance over the nidhogg virus there. Which might mean that now the bloody thing is just cruising around making zombies all willy-nilly.

Sorry for the triple post..... but I had one of those light bulb over the head moments earlier and I think I've finally cracked it....


Baldur (God) is the key component to making the Nidhogg Virus work but when Baldur was taken Hel no longer has access to him and the Human body isn't enough. As Hel states "True Immortality not the quackery the Aesir practice" and at the bit were Hel has the transplant "There has to be another way" as in without a God.

In context, True Immortality, no need for the Human Body/God Implant (quackery). Hel "If the agreement with Odin hadn't been broken it would've been perfect" Perfect as in Loki, Hel and co would have Immortality beyond that which the Aesir have and possibly even Odin. When Odin realised Hermod went to get Baldur.


If you consider that from a Gods point of view its the ability to exist in reality rather than just in Myth's and people's faith. As Loki says "We have the power to remake the world" i.e the Human world as in his opinion Humans are the ones responsible for it all.

[Guirec730]

Interesting. That theory, if true, gives Loki and Hel far more depth than typical mythological figures.

[Artemis32]

Interesting. That theory, if true, gives Loki and Hel far more depth than typical mythological figures.

Tbh unless I'm completely missing something I can't see that many options..

My only other thought is that Hel freed Nidhogg from cyberspace using Baldur's body, as humans can't use cyberspace. Which is more or less the same as what I said before...

I wish someone would put me out of my misery..... I've had smoke coming out my ears for the past few days.... lol

[migueldoval]

Ok, another post for speak about things that Too Human inspire or remembered us:

I love the feeling and the art of Cyberspace. Of course, I think that it feels a little empty and maybe it could have more things to do, but I feel that was exactly the purpose when SK made the cyberspace.

This underlying sense of loneliness, contrasting with the beauty of the place it could have many interpretations.

But besides the purpose of cyberspace, I really love the art and design. Some parts are breathtaking, just seems left from a painting of Salvador Dali ( one of the greatest Spanish artists), specially the cyberspace place where are like massive branches and roots of trees in the background, and some big rocks just floating in the air. It feels to me like a surrealist painting, which I find fascinating because the concepts surrealism and cyberspace might be more connected than we imagine…

What do you think guys?

Regards

Any new thoughts about this regard?

I am happy to coming to the site again and found that still are people out there playing too human.
Happy new year.

[FoxbaT]

Only want to state that I like where this thread is going.

I only wanted to know how Loki could enter the cyberspace with a different appearence and also how could him enter without having access to a well.

In the sequence where he receives the promisse that he'll be judged, and then he got locked again, tied to a rock with a snake dripping some sort of acid on him, he's spirit leaves his body and turn out to be one of the norns.

How could this happen? Any thoughts on this?

[DEADPOOLgr]

I think that Cyberspace represents the real world as it once was and so it represents a beautifull land with awesome view, like forest or a meadow which i prefer to be alone. Also only the Aesir can connect in Cyberspace and they have something else to do when Baldur finds a well.

Now to foxbatx360 question. I haven't given much thought in this but as for the snake i think that it was a view of how Loki was feeling the time of the torment and later maybe he managed to connect on a well with WiFi :P (lol) and to manipulate his image in Cyberspace.

[Yarrrmonger7]

What ive always wondered is what the Wolf Troops are doing behind Baldur when hes dazing off looking in a well for long periods of time.

Do you really want to know? Well occasionally they kill each other to get a good look at a Valkeryie... Then I think we can put our brains to the test to imagine what they do with that image in their heads... Occassionally they'll grope the valkeryie too. This pisses her off so she forces them off the edge with her telekineses thing.

[MasterOfDoritos]

Wut

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