The TH sports fan thread

[Maawdawg]

Since the Duke v UNC thread got some sports conversation going I was wondering who is a fan of what teams. I had a thread like this on a previous incarnation of the forums but it is lost in the nether.

My teams, in order of how rabid my allegiance is.
Red Sox - die hard fan, everyone in my family is, got it from my grandfather
UConn men's basketball
Chicago Bears - tough to watch at times but let that stop me
Boston Celtics - from the real Big 3 days
Boston Bruins - since the Bourque - Neely days
New England Patriots - more due to local allegiance

The one team that doesn't fit in my fan list is Da Bears which I follow due to the fact that my pediatrician when I was little was from the Halas family. They were obviously huge Bears fans given that his family founded the team and actually a large part the NFL as a whole, so my first experiences with the NFL were in that direction. It didn't hurt that they had Payton, Perry, McMahon, Singletary and Gault on those teams, among others.

Teams/things I openly root against
NY Yankees - though I do like Jeter, Rivera, and Posada, and yes I do know more about the Yankees than most Yankee fans, I love Sawx/Yanks history and conversation
Minnesota Vikings/Green Bay Packers - no need to root vs Detroit :)
LA Lakers - also Kobe in general, great player I just can't stand him
Duke basketball - I like Coach K, but just hate the constant Duke slobbering in the media
Notre Dame sports - football and basketball both, so over-hyped, Charlie Weis and Digger Phelps both need to go away
Montreal Canadiens - required as a Bruins fanDallas Cowboys
Brett Favre, TO, Pacman Jones, A-Rod and anyone else who thinks they are bigger than the team they are on.
Frontrunner Fans - people who like all the best teams, i.e. "I am a Yankees/Bulls/Cowboys fan" guy, people who took every first place team from an era and picked them as their favorite.
Crappy TV game announcers - Tim McCarver, Madden, Chris Berman, Joe Morgan, and Greg Gumbel, I am looking at you, stop ruining the games I am trying to watch

I will also watch Nascar in HD when it is on and there aren't a lot of alternatives. I am a huge MMA fan and watch as much of it as I can. I used to follow boxing as well but I have become more and more disenchanted with the sport as a whole as time goes along. I am also not a big NCAA football fan, I watch it but don't follow anything specifically. I am a huge NFL draft freak though, I usually watch both days of it completely.

In general if no team I like is in a game I stick to the following allegiances. NFC, AL, Big East Conference.

I have a profile on ESPN.com and have had some frontpage featured blogs as well as an NFL Draft blog feature but I haven't been on there much since they changed it to more of a Myspace type feel than just sports conversation like it used to be.

[Sw0ll_MC25]

KC Royals
KC Chiefs
Hey, at least I'm loyal

Kansas Jayhawks, sometimes Kansas State Wildcats if not playing the Jayhawks.

The rest of the big 12, again if not playing the jayhawks.

Dislikes alomsot everyother college conference, especially The SEC.

[exkon]

NFL and NBA fan:

Seattle Seahawks - gotta love the local team...horrible season though...
Former Seattle Sonics - The Glove baby!!! Will be sorely missed
LA Lakers - Been a Kobe fan for a long time, still have quite a collection of his rookie cards.
Jordan Era Bulls - felt sorry for any team when they thought they had a chance when he was playing...

I'll watch college sports here and there, but I'm mainly there for the Bowl games and March Madness

[Maawdawg]

March Madness is my favorite sports event, and it isn't close.

Seattle has had a rough couple years in sports, that totally sucks. You would get a kick out of Bill Simmons from ESPN and his articles on Seattle and the NBA team being stolen. He has been on it for a long while now, even interviewing Stern in his podcasts. He is a Boston area transplant living in LA, but he has some interesting takes on sports. His column is as much pop culture as it is sports. It is pretty much what I would write if I had a sports column. He refuses to call the Oklahoma City Thunder their actual name at all, he usually goes with the Seattle Sloppyseconds or a variant.

If you look through his older stuff you can probably find some of it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/simmons/index

At least you get to watch Payton on TV now, he and Webber are AWESOME together for studio coverage. Like Barkley was when he first hit TNT.

Here is a good ESPN the magazine, article on Seattle if you have some time to kill.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3693743

[Nicholbert]

Since the Duke v UNC thread got some sports conversation going I was wondering who is a fan of what teams. I had a thread like this on a previous incarnation of the forums but it is lost in the nether.

My teams, in order of how rabid my allegiance is.
Red Sox - die hard fan, everyone in my family is, got it from my grandfather
UConn men's basketball
Chicago Bears - tough to watch at times but let that stop me
Boston Celtics - from the real Big 3 days
Boston Bruins - since the Bourque - Neely days
New England Patriots - more due to local allegiance

The one team that doesn't fit in my fan list is Da Bears which I follow due to the fact that my pediatrician when I was little was from the Halas family. They were obviously huge Bears fans given that his family founded the team and actually a large part the NFL as a whole, so my first experiences with the NFL were in that direction. It didn't hurt that they had Payton, Perry, McMahon, Singletary and Gault on those teams, among others.

Teams/things I openly root against
NY Yankees - though I do like Jeter, Rivera, and Posada, and yes I do know more about the Yankees than most Yankee fans, I love Sawx/Yanks history and conversation
Minnesota Vikings/Green Bay Packers - no need to root vs Detroit :)
LA Lakers - also Kobe in general, great player I just can't stand him
Duke basketball - I like Coach K, but just hate the constant Duke slobbering in the media
Notre Dame sports - football and basketball both, so over-hyped, Charlie Weis and Digger Phelps both need to go away
Montreal Canadiens - required as a Bruins fanDallas Cowboys
Brett Favre, TO, Pacman Jones, A-Rod and anyone else who thinks they are bigger than the team they are on.
Frontrunner Fans - people who like all the best teams, i.e. "I am a Yankees/Bulls/Cowboys fan" guy, people who took every first place team from an era and picked them as their favorite.
Crappy TV game announcers - Tim McCarver, Madden, Chris Berman, Joe Morgan, and Greg Gumbel, I am looking at you, stop ruining the games I am trying to watch

I will also watch Nascar in HD when it is on and there aren't a lot of alternatives. I am a huge MMA fan and watch as much of it as I can. I used to follow boxing as well but I have become more and more disenchanted with the sport as a whole as time goes along. I am also not a big NCAA football fan, I watch it but don't follow anything specifically. I am a huge NFL draft freak though, I usually watch both days of it completely.

In general if no team I like is in a game I stick to the following allegiances. NFC, AL, Big East Conference.

I have a profile on ESPN.com and have had some frontpage featured blogs as well as an NFL Draft blog feature but I haven't been on there much since they changed it to more of a Myspace type feel than just sports conversation like it used to be.

You and I are going to get along just fine Dawg...and it will be fun to see CC and Tex destroy Fenway. Someday, when I grow up, I want to burn it to the ground. I want to be sure Pedro is in there too. Even though he is awful now, and a Mut to boot, I still want to see him go up in a blaze!!!

On a side note...are there any fantasy baseball players in here? Perhaps this needs it's own thread? I generally commish a couple yahoo leagues during baseball season and would like to open up invites to anyone interested and willing to participate daily.

[Nicholbert]

and this is essentially for any red blooded man who enjoys cars and...um...yeah...

Danica straddles a Cobra (http://jalopnik.com/5150612/danica-patrick-straddles-a-cobra-in-new-si-swimsuit-issue) :D

edit: I changed the link's title to be a bit more direct.

[laxfish76]

UNC, baby!

[PLOWKILL]

My differnt sports teams are:

-Tar Heels (BBall)
-Gators (FootBall/BBall)
-Long Horns (FootBall)

^(Im a college fan)^

-Del la Hoya (Boxing)
-Anderson Silva (UFC) , and also Rampage for knocking the crap out of the IceMan :D

[laxfish76]

Ok.

College:

-UNC (BBALL)
-Florida (Football)
-Davidson (BBALL)

NBA: -Raptors
NFL: -New England
Boxing: -Ricky Hatton
-Steve Molitor

[Sw0ll_MC25]

Alot of UNC/Florida fans so far...

Boo UNC

Boo Florida, Boo Tim T.

College sports is were its at. :)

[laxfish76]

Alot of UNC/Florida fans so far...

Boo UNC

Boo Florida, Boo Tim T.

College sports is were its at. :)

:rolleyes:

He's only the best player in NCAA football.

[exkon]

College Sports is where it's at?

Look at the BCS and try not go into blinding rage.

Not saying that Professional sports doesn't have it share of problems, but the BCS really? After all this time it was the best they could come up with?

[Sw0ll_MC25]

:rolleyes:

He's only the best player in NCAA football.

For only one year....

Edit: I take that back, just over hyped.


>he is god I mean good according to the media <
oh crap did i just say that

[laxfish76]

For only one year....

Edit: I take that back, just over hyped.


>he is god I mean good according to the media <
oh crap did i just say that
Wow, how can you say that about a Heisman winner (should have won this year as well), and a guy who lead a team to the BCS Championship?

Who do you cheer for?

[Sw0ll_MC25]

BCS has its faults no doubt about it.

At least the NCAA tourny has it right.

[Sw0ll_MC25]

Wow, how can you say that about a Heisman winner (should have won this year as well), and a guy who lead a team to the BCS Championship?

Who do you cheer for?

I know, I know, he is good.

I lost alot of money over the BCS games this year. I guess what goes around comes around... I won a couple of hundred last year at the books.

[The_Fallen]

College Football: Navy and Air Force (both rivals I know but still great teams)
NFL: Eagles

[Nicholbert]

Teams for which I bleed:
Yankees
Bills
Steelers (married into a Steeler family)
Iowa Hawkeyes (NCAAMB and NCAAFB)

Teams for which I loathe, despise and detest:
Red Sox
Tampa Bay Rays
Anaheim Angels
Arizona Diamondbacks
Red Sox
Curt Schilling
Red Sox
Duke
UNC
Florida...essentially anyone outside of the Big Ten
Any NBA team
Most of the NFC...especially the Cowboys

I also like GT racing, not anything NASCAR, and did I mention I hate the NBA? It's awesome watching a bunch of thugs and criminals play the longest, most boring season of any sport on the face of the planet. I genuinely despise soccer. I love fishing. Anything else? Just ask.

[Icarus 413]

Favorite teams:

New Jersey Devils
New York Mets
New York Jets
and I guess New Jersey Nets

I'm not a big basketball fan.

I also love:
The Red Sox
Boston Bruins
New England Patriots
and again, I guess the Boston Celtics

I'm from New Jersey and moved to Massachusetts.

Anything College I root for Notre Dame, but I also can't stand Charlie Weis.

Teams I hate:
Yankees
Flyers
Canadians
Yankees
Penguins
Red Wings
Yankees
Braves
Patrick Roy
and Yankees

My number 1 favorite athlete of all time is by far, the best goalie ever, Martin Brodeur.

[baconbits]

KC Royals
KC Chiefs
Hey, at least I'm loyal

Kansas Jayhawks, sometimes Kansas State Wildcats if not playing the Jayhawks.

The rest of the big 12, again if not playing the jayhawks.

Dislikes alomsot everyother college conference, especially The SEC.

Ohhh yes this is great... now its my turn...
Ahem,

STL CARDINALS
(I'll admit Chiefs are doing better than Rams but Warner still has it in him! :D)
Lastly, GO TIGERS! (HUGE border battle for those of you who don't know)
Speaking of which, they're showing highlights from when we beat you a few nights ago...

Sorry I just had to get that out :) I have a born hatred for KU
But I have to ask, how can you be a Jayhawks fan and not hate the Tigers? did'nt think that was possible...

(I smell a warning)

[baconbits]

Teams I hate:
Yankees
Flyers
Canadians
Yankees
Penguins
Red Wings
Yankees
Braves
Patrick Roy
and Yankees

Oh, and the Yankees, can't forget them! lol

I hate them too :D

[Sw0ll_MC25]

Ohhh yes this is great... now its my turn...
Ahem,

STL CARDINALS
(I'll admit Chiefs are doing better than Rams but Warner still has it in him! :D)
Lastly, GO TIGERS! (HUGE border battle for those of you who don't know)
Speaking of which, they're showing highlights from when we beat you a few nights ago...

Sorry I just had to get that out :) I have a born hatred for KU
But I have to ask, how can you be a Jayhawks fan and not hate the Tigers? did'nt think that was possible...

(I smell a warning)


Its on now. JK
KU led most of the game and then just lost it you can't win with 20 some turnovers....
This would have been a different game at Allen....
Who has the longest current win streak at home thats right KU:)

My love of the big 12 outstands KU, Mizzou. Well sort of. lol


Edit: Dick Vitale can go to hell. hahaha

[baconbits]

Its on now. JK
KU led most of the game and then just lost it you can't win with 20 some turnovers....
This would have been a different game at Allen....
Who has the longest current win streak at home thats right KU:)

My love of the big 12 outstands KU, Mizzou. Well sort of. lol


Edit: Dick Vitale can go to hell. hahaha
Haha its nice to hear someone that agrees with me lol

Turn on ESPN theres a surprise for you...

[baconbits]

Aside from that, you have to admit that now that Snyder is out and Anderson is in, the Tigers have stepped up their game

EDIT: Snyder can meet the same fate as Dick Vitale :)

[Sw0ll_MC25]

Haha its nice to hear someone that agrees with me lol

Turn on ESPN theres a surprise for you...

Why do you think I'm posting.lol
Whatching a game with no sound :(
I just got a new Xbox so once the updates are done I'll killin.

[baconbits]

Lol root for UNC
I hate Duke

[Maawdawg]

great sports story here. Too bad more media outlets cant pick up stories like this. I am sick of hearing about ARod right now and I couldn't care less if Brett Favre is "retiring" again.

http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/basketball/boys/news/story?id=3914375

[Nicholbert]

great sports story here. Too bad more media outlets cant pick up stories like this. I am sick of hearing about ARod right now and I couldn't care less if Brett Favre is "retiring" again.

http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/basketball/boys/news/story?id=3914375

a great story indeed, and I particularly agree with one of the posters in saying this shouldn't be a story, it should be commonplace.

good find maaw, and I am right there with you where ARod and Favre are concerned. Favre has truly tarnished his character forever in my eyes, and I am not even going to talk about ARod becuase there isn't anything else to say. Everything has been said. It should be done now. Let him live in shame and go on becoming the next asterisked home run king.

[Maawdawg]

I can already tell you the end of the ARod thing anyway, at some point more info is going to come out and show this current story was complete garbage. A top flight athlete taking injections of something he didn't know what it was, on cycles, for 3 years? Yeah.

His whole story in the news conference was BS and I am positive more info will come out to show it. So far in the 3 steroid interviews he has done his story has changed completely, admitting freely to what everyone knew at the time but denying everything else. Idiotic. Supposedly there is a lot more info to come out in that lady's book. The lady he accused of breaking into his house and stalking him then recanted by saying it was a misunderstanding. How can you misunderstand him saying last week that he "has a police report from the Miami police saying she broke into his house" but now it never happened?

Here is another good story you may have missed, since it was hardly covered outside of CT. The only reason ESPN had it is they are in CT and it was in all the local papers. People kill UConn and Calhoun for having problem players, who always get front page treatment when they do something wrong. When he does stuff like this almost noone talks about it though. He saw one of his starters was having maturity issues so he put his scholarship on hold and got him a real job for a semester to get his grades and life in order. How many coaches would take a top 5 player on their team and sit them for a year to get them straightened out so they can be productive off the court?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=oneil_dana&id=3769359

[ZIPGUN]

I`m by Phila. can you tell.

Likes:

Flyers- #1
Phillies- W.S.Champs Ya!
Eagles
LA Kings- I`m from Cal.
49ers- Yes as a boy I watched Joe and Rice every Sun.

Hates:
Any team from NY
Devils- sorry Ic

I`m a Hockey fan at heart, everything else is second in my book.

[Maawdawg]

Favre has truly tarnished his character forever in my eyes


I HATED Favre, as was required in being a Bears fan. The thing is, at least I really respected him as a player and person for how he was on the field but now I just see him as another selfish "me-first" athlete. That started way before the retirement thing though, when he called out Donald Driver publicly to sign at a pay cut to play in GB when he never would have thought of doing that.

[Laonar]

Football - Pittsburgh Steelers/Arizona Cardinals (What a superbowl eh)
Baseball sucks imo but I like going to Orioles games
Soccer - DC Untied
Hockey - I love all hockey games my main team is Penquins
Racing - Kasey Kahne
Basketball - Just like watching Lebron James

[Dubbabubba]

Fan of (in order of favorite sport):
Basketball: Toronto Raptors
Football (American): Steelers
International Football: Germany
Baseball: Toronto Blue Jays
Football (the real one): Toronto FC
CBB: Uconn, UNC

[Magnum]

Fan of:
Phillies (MLB)
Agassi (Tennis - Retired)
Dolphins (NFL)
Penn State (College Football)

Hate:
Steelers (There are no words for how much I detest these pricks)
Yankees (Duh, since I'm a Phillies fan)
Ohio State (College Football)
Michigan (College Football)

[Nicholbert]

It makes me so happy to see all the Yankee haters in here...gonna be a fun summer :D

[Magnum]

It makes me so happy to see all the Yankee haters in here...gonna be a fun summer :D

Especially when the crash and burn again...:rolleyes:

[Nicholbert]

Perhaps. We do have the 2 highest paid players who are simultaneously 2 of the worst post season players too, so you could be right. But I doubt they will crash and burn. They may fizzle, but they never crash and burn.

[SuperJay]

Detroit Red Wings all the way. :) NHL hockey is the only pro sport I pay any attention to.


http://www.kamloopsfalcons.com/images/detroit_red_wings_logo1022504b.jpg

[Maawdawg]

They may fizzle, but they never crash and burn.
That is the Mets' job. :D

I think the Yankees got some good upgrades but 2 of the big 3 they got do involve decent risk. Sabathia is a good pitcher but doesn't have the best postseason record due to the fact that the Indians (and Brewers) burned him out in the regular season just to get there. If the Yankees can limit his innings a bit he may be more effective, and if he can not eat a whole cheesecake a day while in New York. He also has a TON of innings on his arm already for such a young pitcher.

Burnett just needs to have his arm not fly off. He is one injury from the Yankee fans treating him like Pavano. He got a LOT of money for someone who only won more than 12 games once in his whole career.

Teixeira is a really good player. No downside to getting him in my eyes though unless he gets off to a bad start and the fans get on him. He hasn't handled the big market pressure before.

I am actually going to post the above in the MLB thread (http://www.toohuman.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10055) so we can follow up the discussion over there instead of mixing them together.

[sir woimz]

LOVE

Miami Dolphins NFL
Miami Hurricanes NCAA
Florida Marline MLB
Miami Heat NBA

HATE

NY Jets NFL
Florida State NCAA
Boston RedSox MLB
LA Lakers NBA

[BasicBreakdown]

Die hard fan:

NFL: Houston Texans :( i know.... but I'm loyal
MLB: Houston Astros
AHL: Houston Aeros (minor league teams matter too!)
NHL: Dallas Stars
NBA: Houston Rockets

HATE:
NFL: Dallas Cowboys, Indianopolis Colts
MLB: Yankees, St. Louis Cardinals
NHL: Detroit Red Wings
NBA: Utah Jazz (freakin floppers)

PLEASE tell me there is someone out there who is a Texans fan that doesn't live in Houston!!! I'm from Houston, but I just wanna know if the Texans get any love anywhere else. haha.

[Nicholbert]

Die hard fan:

NFL: Houston Texans :( i know.... but I'm loyal
MLB: Houston Astros
AHL: Houston Aeros (minor league teams matter too!)
NHL: Dallas Stars
NBA: Houston Rockets

HATE:
NFL: Dallas Cowboys, Indianopolis Colts
MLB: Yankees, St. Louis Cardinals
NHL: Detroit Red Wings
NBA: Utah Jazz (freakin floppers)

PLEASE tell me there is someone out there who is a Texans fan that doesn't live in Houston!!! I'm from Houston, but I just wanna know if the Texans get any love anywhere else. haha.

I don't think there are many, unless they are following a player from college, or are original Oiler fans...

And how does one hate the Cardinals? I am right there with you on the Red Wings. I fuc*ing hate them. And I don't even like hockey that miuch. I think you will find good company in the Yankee hating. I am alone in my love and passion for the greatest sports franchise ever.

Welcome to the boards!

[BasicBreakdown]

And how does one hate the Cardinals? I am right there with you on the Red Wings. I fuc*ing hate them. And I don't even like hockey that miuch. I think you will find good company in the Yankee hating. I am alone in my love and passion for the greatest sports franchise ever.

Welcome to the boards!
Thanks! I've been looking up info on this website for the last month or so, so I decided it was time to start contributing (even though this is the sports thread).

About the Cardinals, I have just learned to despise them because they seem to be the Astros' kryptonite. So hate might be a strong word to use, but I'm not gonna like any team that consistently beats my hometown guys. They destroyed us today 11-2. That damn Pujols....

[Nicholbert]

Thanks! I've been looking up info on this website for the last month or so, so I decided it was time to start contributing (even though this is the sports thread).

About the Cardinals, I have just learned to despise them because they seem to be the Astros' kryptonite. So hate might be a strong word to use, but I'm not gonna like any team that consistently beats my hometown guys. They destroyed us today 11-2. That damn Pujols....

Dude Pujols is a beast! He was awesome for my fantasy leagues today. Count on him being the MVP again. My wife is originally from Houston, and while she is a Steeler's fan (family came from Pittsburgh) she loves the Texans. So she is a transplanted fan. But don't worry. We have DirecTV and she does not suffer from Fan Displacement Syndrome, or whatever the Mannings advertised.

I know what you mean about the kryptonite. The Rays used to be the Yanks', but now that they are a good team for real, it seems it will be the Orioles.

Glad you jumped in for conversation. The site obviously has excellent resources, but the comminity is awesome too!

[BasicBreakdown]

Dude Pujols is a beast! He was awesome for my fantasy leagues today. Count on him being the MVP again. My wife is originally from Houston, and while she is a Steeler's fan (family came from Pittsburgh) she loves the Texans. So she is a transplanted fan. But don't worry. We have DirecTV and she does not suffer from Fan Displacement Syndrome, or whatever the Mannings advertised.

I know what you mean about the kryptonite. The Rays used to be the Yanks', but now that they are a good team for real, it seems it will be the Orioles.

Glad you jumped in for conversation. The site obviously has excellent resources, but the comminity is awesome too!
Well a translpanted Texans fan is still a fan! I say we are some of the most devoted fans out there. I'll also say some of you Yankees fans have gotta be dedicated as well, considering all the ridicule you and your team get.

Ya I love just reading the conversations on some of these threads, love the community. Especially the humor.

[Nicholbert]

Well a translpanted Texans fan is still a fan! I say we are some of the most devoted fans out there. I'll also say some of you Yankees fans have gotta be dedicated as well, considering all the ridicule you and your team get.

Ya I love just reading the conversations on some of these threads, love the community. Especially the humor.

While I may be a Yankee fan first, I am a LOVER of baseball. I appreciate all aspects (except for its current administration) of the game, and fall in love with it every year more and more. Yeah, I'm kind of a freak about it. I subscribe to MLB Extra Innings and MLBTV so I can be sure I don't miss much action.

Yeah, a Yankee fan takes a lot of grief about many things, but it is understandable. No franchise is as dominant as they are. So a bit of jealousy is to be expected...and I like it!

[BasicBreakdown]

yep definitely still HATE the cardinals. Astros just lost again 3-0. Lohse allowed only three hits the whole game and retired 24 consecutive houston batters. it's gonna be another long season for the 'stros.

[laxfish76]

Woooo, Blue Jays are 5-2!!!!

//Lax

[DenyThisFlesh]

The only major sport I'm a big fan of is the NFL. My favorite team is the Vikings. I hate the Packers and the Bears. The Lions aren't worth hating at this point.

I watch other sports sometimes. I like watching the Cavs in the NBA. Lebron is just fun to watch. I like Miami too. I don't really watch hockey or baseball.

I am really into MMA now so I watch that a lot. My favorite fighter to watch is Urijah Faber.

[Maawdawg]

I hate the ... Bears.

I need to add this to the bannable offenses list. :D

My cousin is a Vikes fan as well so I am used to the inter-conference thrash talk. The Lion-esses are definitely forgettable at this point, and until they break a 6-10 record will remain so.

I agree that Cleaveland Lebrons and the Heat (AKA the Miami Wades) are fun to watch. The NBA is all about star power now. No other sport is so dependent on having one superstar carry your team.

[DenyThisFlesh]

I need to add this to the bannable offenses list. :D

My cousin is a Vikes fan as well so I am used to the inter-conference thrash talk. The Lion-esses are definitely forgettable at this point, and until they break a 6-10 record will remain so.

I agree that Cleaveland Lebrons and the Heat (AKA the Miami Wades) are fun to watch. The NBA is all about star power now. No other sport is so dependent on having one superstar carry your team.

You're right about the NBA. I used to like the Timberwolves, but then they traded the best player they've ever had and I lost interest. I was a Bulls fan back before the wolves came into existence and after seeing as the wolves were terrible when they started. Watching MJ and Pippen play together was one of the best things I've ever had the pleasure of seeing. I actually went to a game at the Target Center when the Bulls came to town and it was amazing. I got boos from some of the fans near me as I was cheering for the Bulls the whole game.