Too Human's basic story not so far off?

[AKAtheMilkman]

many scientists believe that in the next 20 years there are going to be several break throughs in the fields of nano tecnology, A.I., robotics, cybernetics, genetics, and bioengineering. so, i was thinking, i couldn't help noticing that there seem to be many parellels between the world of too human and our own.

computers can already calculate algerithems faster then us. now this is not a slight difference. they can think trillions of times faster then us and its just a matter of time before these calculations can be applyed to real world situations in the form of AI. also advances in the field of robotics continually give us more and more organic and life like machines. on the other hand, advances in cybernetics and genetics will soon let us increase our own processing power to an even more increadible speed. along with other implants and devices that will allow us to agument our own abilities.

so, as we become more and more robotic in nature so to do machines become more biological in nature( not unlike in Too Human) i don't think that there will be some terminator-like war between man and machine but i do want to mention that this is not going to happen in some far of, distant future. these things are being developed now and the beginnings of these tecnologies are likely to start imerging in the next couple of decades. we could even see the end result of them before the end of our lifetime.

[iron]

in the next 20 years there are going to be several break throughs in the fields of nano tecnology, A.I., robotics, cybernetics, genetics, and bioengineering. so, i was thinking, i couldn't help noticing that there seem to be many parellels between the world of too human and our own.

You can tell future? :o
I agree with the points being made BTW.

[AKAtheMilkman]

You can tell future? :o
I agree with the points being made BTW.
its just a prediction of several futurists that it will happen within this time frame. i could have worded it better though, gimmie a min.

[x blazingfire x]

LOL, he cut out the part before that to make it look like you tried to tell the future -.-;
by the way i killed your cat

[AKAtheMilkman]

LOL, he cut out the part before that to make it look like you tried to tell the future -.-;
by the way i killed your cat
it wasn't that he cut it out. thats all it said at first. i went back and fixed it later.

[x blazingfire x]

Oh, didn't throw in a Edit: or something could've helped. Or its my fault for not seeing it before you changed it lol :D

[AKAtheMilkman]

Oh, didn't throw in a Edit: or something could've helped. Or its my fault for not seeing it before you changed it lol :D
i said i was gonna change it in my comment though so you could have infered that i actually changed it:D

[x blazingfire x]

you're killin me smalls..

[Salus]

One thing that is really starting to make me wonder is that entire generations are being shaped by technology, what does this mean when we start to become less human.

Look at it from this perspective, if a person does not possess an email address today it's considered strange to some, unthinkable to others. I'm in this in between generation where I didn't fully grow up with it but I've had it for long enough to use it fully as a tool. But the next generations will see email and whatever it may progress to as the norm.

Now lets look at for example cybernetic implants, if someone were to get one today at this very moment they would be the minority. But if say implants became the norm and it somehow became widely adopted we would not only no longer be human but we would be changing the very definition of being human for upcoming generations.

[GameFM]

What is the definition of humanity? According to dictionary.reference.com, one of the definition is
"...the quality of being humane; kindness; benevolence..."

So I think Machines, AI, VI, aliens or Mutants that exhibit that quality of being humane can be considered as a human.

While playing the game, I think SK purposely highlight that Baldr still show sign of being humane. I noticed from his expression after he vented his "anger" on Hod and Hel.

Going back to the scene when Baldr and Hel talk about the 'revived' wolf and later Baldr's revived wife...etc. The reaction that Baldr has when he know about his own 'death' and ....

So Salus, I think it is a good question. If we 99% cybernetic are we still human? If we clone our bodies without porting over our 'concious', is that clone a human? What is that which make us human? Can we be Too Human?

[AKAtheMilkman]

there will come a point when we will have to change out definition of what life is. and something doesn't have to be alive to be sentient. there will come a point when technology will become selfaware but the only one that will truly know it is sentient is itself. when this does finally happen i think there will be a shift in what we think of as life and we will gain a greater appreciation for life because we will have actually created a new form of it.

i think that in the future the word human will be used less and less or atleast will not have the same meaning it does today. in the future there will be such a wide variation of lifeforms that the word human will just be a generalization of our species as a hole and there will be other terms to refer to the different offshoots that have changed themselves through genetic manipulation or cybernetic implants.

[Goldmoon]

I think being human simply means being a human being much like being a dog means being canine. Being alive, however could mean anything. Why could'nt a machine be considered alive. For every definition that you come up with for alive I'd be willing to bet there is some creature in nature that doesnt fit the definition so why not a machine? We're the same as animals is nearly every respect except for higher thinking as far as we know. Its not that much of a stretch to say an AI being could be alive as well.

[Salus]

It's not so much that a machine can't be alive but it's harder for us to think about it because we are approaching an age where we may have sentient machines and if we define them as alive that would mean they would have rights and freedoms. Labels are what humanity takes shelter in because it allows us to persecute others and rationalize it into something ethical.

[EightBall]

remember, they said that we would be living on pills by now (although some of us are anyway, they meant for food though), even in 2000 this was supposed to happen, there are supposed to be buildings in space by 2010, there is supposed to be nano-technology being use to treat obesity (not even a damn disease, try curing flu) and a cure for cancer, this is out of a magazine from 2001
although i do agree that technology is taking us into its cold, unfeeling grasp, controlling many aspects of our life like a war machine controls the decisions of the enemy (too many metaphors(?)?)