View Full Version : Ward of The NORN's Failed to stop damage
bansin
09-12-2008, 02:11 AM
Ok, has any one who uses Ward of the NORN's had it ever fail? Today I had it fail under a missle barrage. I had just activated it, two seconds later, barrage, barrage, barrage...dead.
Their was a Gold Missiler, and a Purple Missiler and three normal. So what do you think caused this? I'm stumped. It also pisses me off because it was the first time I've ever died in Helheim.
EA_Cru_2002
09-12-2008, 02:16 AM
There might have been a few times here and there that it failed me. I'm guessing bugs. What can I say, they happen sometimes. It does get infuriating however when you're expecting to be safe and you die unfairly.
gualdhar
09-12-2008, 05:17 PM
what may have happened is that you activated it after the missiles were fired. Ward of the NORNs doesn't work on attacks already initiated when its activated.
blooD crEscNT
09-12-2008, 05:47 PM
Also certain attacks bypass the shield even though it's clearly activated. For sure, the one that I know of are the Spider's Arrows.
Also if activated while in the midst of enemies attacks causes the spider to "go crazy" i.e. run around in circles, causes the shield to, what it seems to be to me, fluxuate and allow attacks to passthrough.
IEatCivics
09-12-2008, 07:21 PM
I've had that happen and then i specced far left since I've been finding red gear and that spider is WAY WORSE. It doesn't stun enemies that are getting up from being thrown up in the air, when it does stun i say 40% of the enemies you can't attack unless you're shooting at them and those 40% that you can't lock onto to attack with melee don't get hurt by ruiners. Then the stun spider is useless for bosses/trolls since it does nothing =(. They needa make a elite set for the middle path because it's 33845893458304958327283 times better and I Love Mid Path.
EA_Cru_2002
09-12-2008, 09:29 PM
I think they purposely made the elite sets for human and cyber not go middle path because SK knew that that was the strongest path in terms of skills, so they have to bolster up the paths that wouldn't get as much love. Seems kinda backwards thinking since that means it makes those rune slots useless, I know, but if they did have both elite sets cater towards the middle path, then it'd be like the game saying, "Hey, we know the other paths suck, just use this one!" Or if they had one alignment go middle but not the other, then everyone would be picking that alignment.
gualdhar
09-12-2008, 09:32 PM
no, SK made it so every human elite set benefits the left side, and every cyber set benefits the right. Most jobs, especially Berserker have weaker middle builds.
Sgt_Z
09-12-2008, 09:35 PM
I just assumed it only took a certain amount of damage before it blew up. I was in the serpent 3-4 getting crushed by rockets and a dark elf sniper, I used the spider and I did take a few blasts, but I swear I saw the little spider blow up and then I died. And I mean all within 1 or 2 seconds. I couldn't even get the heal to go off in time.
blooD crEscNT
09-12-2008, 09:49 PM
I just assumed it only took a certain amount of damage before it blew up. I was in the serpent 3-4 getting crushed by rockets and a dark elf sniper, I used the spider and I did take a few blasts, but I swear I saw the little spider blow up and then I died. And I mean all within 1 or 2 seconds. I couldn't even get the heal to go off in time.
That's very interesting. It hasn't happened to me before and / or yet. Has anyone else had this happen to them?
BigKevSexyMan
09-13-2008, 12:58 AM
Ok, I've had the Ward of NORN's fail to just DEs attacking me. Here's how I believe it works. The damn this has it's own health meter. If you look at the shield's animation it looks a lot like the same one that leaders use. That part is just speculation though.
RecGamer
09-13-2008, 03:53 PM
I just assumed it only took a certain amount of damage before it blew up. I was in the serpent 3-4 getting crushed by rockets and a dark elf sniper, I used the spider and I did take a few blasts, but I swear I saw the little spider blow up and then I died. And I mean all within 1 or 2 seconds. I couldn't even get the heal to go off in time.
I just saw this happen earlier this morning as I was fighting a troll and circling near it when I saw it blow up.
srpnt
09-19-2008, 09:11 PM
I've been shot and killed through Ward of the NORNs on my middle path BioE, but my middle path Defender doesn't seem to have this problem.
Porrage
09-19-2008, 09:25 PM
what may have happened is that you activated it after the missiles were fired. Ward of the NORNs doesn't work on attacks already initiated when its activated.
Not quite. I've activated the ward seconds before being hit by missiles/arrows/etc and have come out unscathed.
whistles go woo
09-20-2008, 04:02 PM
I'd have to agree with porrage as well, ive definetly had missiles in-air and lived just fine when i popped the ward. I have however seen it been destroeyed or unable to deploy its sheild for you- the thing that ive noticed made this happen the most was placing the spider on uneven or different elevation terrain. I just always try to pop it in a spot im going to be in for at least a few secs and seems to work best that way. This ward is like 95% better than the defender one ive noticed as well wich doesnt even protect me from missiles while troll mounting :(
ezaro
09-20-2008, 04:21 PM
no, SK made it so every human elite set benefits the left side, and every cyber set benefits the right. Most jobs, especially Berserker have weaker middle builds.
Thats interesting because Human Champ go down the Middle path
Human Commando goes down the Middle Path.
I'm sure theres a few more. I can't remember off the top of my head.
IR6SHOT
09-25-2008, 06:10 PM
Thats interesting because Human Champ go down the Middle path
Human Commando goes down the Middle Path.
I'm sure theres a few more. I can't remember off the top of my head.
human commando also gets cut to the bone on its set which is right path /sigh
bansin
09-28-2008, 05:37 PM
Why the hell were the elite sets not designed for homogeneous play styles? Seriously, why didn't they set them up like this:
Armor x 6 given bonus':
2:+1 Tier 3
4:+1 Tier 4
6:+1 Tier 5
7:+1 +1 All Bio-E skill Tree
AND:
Weapon Set 1: +1 Left Tree Bonus
Weapon Set 2: +1 Middle Tree Bonus
Weapon Set 3: +1 Right Tree bonus
Granted...I'm not sure what to say about slotted bonuses. They could have had 3 sets designed for each tree with unique armor graphics creating 3 x the reasons to hunt for those sets.
Nobody would have been cut to the bone this way and it would have been equally good gear.
CalvinWalvin
09-28-2008, 05:54 PM
no, SK made it so every human elite set benefits the left side, and every cyber set benefits the right. Most jobs, especially Berserker have weaker middle builds.
human champ benefits the middle
EDIT: whoops, shoulda read all the posts. sorry!
randomgamer
10-02-2008, 08:48 PM
Some gold enemies seem to be able to sap your spider.
I know usually they cover you in the triple damage field, but while playing with a friend we discover something odd.
I was playing my Cyber Defender, (With my own shield), and he was playing his Human Bio-Engineer. We were playing on Ice Forest and we saw a gold troll and he dropped his shield and I rushed it. He stayed back and used range on the missile goblins, then he just dropped and I realized I was taking damage as well, so I though that perhaps the shield can only take so much damage, and I dropped mine (maxed in Defender and Cyber trees), and I kid you not it immediately blew up, and I died. By the time we both got back his spider was charged again and we ran in and he dropped it, and again it just blew up. Thus I think some gold enemies can just destroy your spiders.
I have encountered the spider's arrows penetrating as well, so the ward may be weak to piercing damage.
ezaro
10-04-2008, 01:40 PM
human commando also gets cut to the bone on its set which is right path /sigh
Go back and reread all the set bonuses /sigh.
one right path, 4 middle.
Killinspree420
10-06-2008, 09:23 PM
Well, from my experiences...The only problems i have had with WOTN is the fact that is NOT instant. there is a 1-2 second window that is needed for it to take effect. You cant just activate and instantly be protected. it doesnt work like that. It seems they wanted people to anticipate rather than to panic and hit the invincible button.
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