List of broken things in Too Human

[ButtChuckIes]

I dont even know where to begin, I have NEVER HATED and LOVED a game so much at the same time.

Poison
Fire
Ice
Slowing Effect
Polarity goblins that drop in the middle of a hectic battle
ICE FOREST 4 TOKENS WTF??????
More epics
Epics that are better then slotted armour
Random Epic stat generator aka more variety of epics
BETTER DROP RATES at 80 hours 15 loot chance and 2 pieces of my set????? one that I bought in town.
More levels, shorter.
NEW GAME ENGINE the graphics look like throw up
Charms that tell you the percent on there bonus, seriously how hard is that.
A page that shows you all of your bonus
Colored runes that stack.
More room for charms in inventory
More epic class specific sets
15.5 second death scene removed
Change respawn point on deaths sometimes you spawn close other times you have to run for two minutes

ALL BOSSES ARE FOUGHT IN RELATIVELY THE SAME WAY

Sprinting option
Able to change you equipment in cyber space, I love not being able to see what charm I am salvaging to make room.
Stronger enemies

HAVE A GOD DAMNED PUBLIC BETA so you can fix everything we all complain about.

Have the god damn weapon and armor stores on the same side of the map, also being able to enter the stores without having to wait for the other player...

END RANT

[WhiteRift]

wow, alot of that just sounds like Rant. Most aren't even valid.
my list would be only to have my norns favour achievement haha

well maybe more variety of setups in the sections

[ButtChuckIes]

wow, alot of that just sounds like Rant. Most aren't even valid.
my list would be only to have my norns favour achievement haha

well maybe more variety of setups in the sections

Then you are more tolerant then I

[WhiteRift]

it took a few hours lol

[Calibretto]

Good post, I agree with all of it.
I made a rant like this that was 10 times longer a few weeks back, though most people didn't care much for it.

[moon]

Just some fyi- If you use a feirce weapon throw you can take out the 'polarity' enemies (except the trolls and super elites) in one shot. I used to hate the polarity enemies but then I started to use the weapon throw before charging in and that helped alot. See if there is a pack of goblins and in the middle is a bomb goblin. You can use the fierce throw and hit all the enemies. Then the bomb goblin explodes and takes out half of the goblins around him.

*This brings up a problem- sometimes you want to execute a weapon throw and your character weapon slides instead. Now that is a real pain.

*Also I might bring up here that the mount animation is slightly messed up. If you hit a wall or are close to a wall when dismounting or trying to balance you get thrown off. I even killed the troll and when dismounting hit a wall. Baldur fell down and the animation stopped. The only problem was the damage didn't register either. The troll animation has other things to like the step animation and some other issues. Mainly when in a close space.

As far as the red drops- 9 red items plus about 5 charms and 5 runes in 94 hours.

*There is a little tip if poisoned or whatnot. Roll like crazy and head for the nearest crate.

[Grief]

Some valid arguments, but how are the polarities broken?

[aquaboy1976]

I would like to see in-game descriptions of the different stats or effects on weapons. When I see thermal something or pulse something, I would love to know what it means!

[DenyThisFlesh]

Some valid arguments, but how are the polarities broken?

They're not. People just need to learn to use the right strategy for them. Fierce attacks and ballistics for light polarities, and melee attacks for dark polarities. I will say that there are times where certain enemies look like a dark polarity and actually end up being light polarity, but those are few and far between.

I do agree that there should be more variety in epic loot though. I think the drop rate is fine, but only one armor set per class/alignment is kind of low. I would like some more levels too. The only level that I believe is too long is Ice Forest. The others are fine.

The graphics are not Gears of War or Bioshock quality, but not every game needs to look like that. The graphics are pretty good and the art in the game is great. I love the look of all the different armor.

The death scene is fine. Get better at the game and die less. That's all there is to it. If you're having trouble, make a middle path cyber defender. Vastly overpowered, but you'll die a lot less if you know what you're doing.

The rest of the things you mention would be nice additions to the game and I hope they get put in, if not in a patch for this game they should at least be in the next game.

[samski]

BETTER DROP RATES
A page that shows you all of your bonus
More epic class specific sets



I removed the repeated complaints and those that are just stupid... ie. "NEW GAME ENGINE".

samski

[iron]

Not necessarily class spec'd sets, but some random generated epics would be nice; especially non set armor.

[Kijik]

OP sounds like he came straight off of the xbox.com forums, that place has degenerated into vultures doing nothing but picking at the smallest minute details of the game....Kids...
Anyway.
I saw someone say something about accidentally sliding when trying to hit a fierce on polarities, I understand, I get the same issues, a little trick you can do though, is roll back, and WHILE rolling, hit both the sticks forward, basically queuing up a fierce attack mid roll, and you'll pretty much always hit that fierce as soon as the roll is over. :)

[Emokitteh]

Only thing that REALLY gets under my skin is level 50 gear with experience bonus on it. Seriously? Cant they make it so that doesnt happen? Oh, and elite Experience Runes, though that is along the same lines as my original complaint.

[DenyThisFlesh]

Only thing that REALLY gets under my skin is level 50 gear with experience bonus on it. Seriously? Cant they make it so that doesnt happen? Oh, and elite Experience Runes, though that is along the same lines as my original complaint.

That's not so bad as you can probably save that armor for the next game. The stupidest things I've seen are agression and soothing on the same piece or two different types of weapon damage on one piece. Those are both freaking retarded. I also hate finding pieces with bioengineer regen with other classes or finding pieces for the wrong alignment.

[Stylesblade]

my biggest problem with the game...its too short...and i wanted to tackled a damn giant!

[Ducky]

The online play patch hurt me alot. I was playing just fine with friends, then that updated and i cant get a stable connecton with anyone on the game :(. Im glad it works with everyone else but for me i have to go back to other games and deal with 11 year-olds on COD4.

[ButtChuckIes]

I dont hate the game by any means I just think a public beta could of done the game wonders review and sales wise.

[SuperJay]

The graphics look like puke??

We must be playing two different games, or you're using a television from the 1950s. ;)

[bigdaddyjosh]

Ive had a few problems in the game and they were all minor but some are just down right stupid. Here are few: 1. jump up to a skimmer then land on a mob of zombies and just sorta floating there getting blasted by rockets and the energy blast of the skimmer while not being able to swing my sword or fall back to the ground. 2. this has only happened once but it almost made me reset my game. Sometimes a enemy will get knocked down and for some reason hell just sorta play dead. he won't get up, disappear or anything like that and while he is on the ground you cannot target him. This happened last night at the part right before Garm where you kill all the enemies then the gate comes down...luckily i had a ruiner attack that did just enough to kill him...And as for the graphics, they don't look like puke but they definetely aren't great either. However, the designers think they did a great job when they do the weird camera pans that scream "look at me, look how good my game looks" all the while they just made it extremely diffucult for me to see what im slide attacking into.

[Bxsnyper]

I dont even know where to begin, I have NEVER HATED and LOVED a game so much at the same time.

Poison

Slowing Effect
ICE FOREST 4 TOKENS WTF??????
More epics
Epics that are better then slotted armour
Random Epic stat generator aka more variety of epics
BETTER DROP RATES at 80 hours 15 loot chance and 2 pieces of my set????? one that I bought in town.
More levels, shorter.

Charms that tell you the percent on there bonus, seriously how hard is that.
A page that shows you all of your bonus
Colored runes that stack.
More room for charms in inventory
More epic class specific sets
15.5 second death scene removed
Change respawn point on deaths sometimes you spawn close other times you have to run for two minutes

Sprinting option
Have the god damn weapon and armor stores on the same side of the map, also being able to enter the stores without having to wait for the other player...

END RANT


I agree 100% with everything said above.

and only 4 tockens in ice forest is bullsh!t because it clearly is the most annoying and longest level.

[ButtChuckIes]

The graphics look like puke??

We must be playing two different games, or you're using a television from the 1950s. ;)

not really I would be willing to bet I have a better tv then most

[iron]

The graphics are excellent. The only reason you would think otherwise is because you have an almost birds eye view of the area, which tends to play down the details.

[EthicsApplied]

Sir the graphics aren't "excellent", they need to include textures. Looking at things in cyberspace is an eye sore, i've always hated when they've used blotchy colored patterns to represent texture, even back in the old days when there was no other option. I really hope they're working on the development tools between now and the sequals, if they don't i'm going to cry. And don't get me wrong this game is super fun and I enjoy it alot, but them having to develp their own tools hampered them alot.

[Xrage]

heres some things that i would fix...................

this is the only game i've ever played where you die from status effects, i love when i kill the last enemy in an area and get poisoned, or set on fire with only a little health and i'm running around looking for a crate to break only to die before i can get to it, stupid....
status effects can drain your health down to "1", but shouldn't kill you.

the ballistic lock on feature is broken, when there's a room full of enemies and one troll the lock on always goes to the troll, sometimes it's hard to target the other enemies, conversely it's hard to lock on to those floating guys who revive the undead in helhiem..

minor complaint--why does your commando automatically pull out his melee weapon and not his gun when you run into a room of enemies, just wondering

and yes, the epic drop rate is waaaaaaaaaaayyyy to stingy, if this was an mmo like world of warcraft or phantasy star universe i could understand, but it isn't, it's a hack n slash that took me 15 hours to beat, then i put 95 more hours into it and have only found 1 piece of epic armor



EDIT... WOW, where to begin. King Drazhar, if you have a difference of opinion about something thats fine, state your opinion clearly and intelligently and let people discuss it. If you have to resort to insults you're the one who looks dumb.

I have over 4000 hours on my world of warcraft account and over 2000 on Phantasy Star Universe, i've spent hundreds of hours farming a certain area looking for that elusive rare and i dont mind doing it, this is not that type of game, this is not an mmo, and it is NOT an rpg, if you think it is then you dont know video games. At its core this is a hack n slash, and i dont care to farm a hack n slash for 100's of hours for a rare. if you do then more power to you, i don't care.

Also, i understand this is a three part game, but that doesn't change the fact that i beat THIS game in 15 hours.

p.s. i consider you to be an adolescent who cares more about arguing and insulting people more than making valid points, so respond to this if you want, but i wont be reading anything on this thread anymore. cheers

[Drazhar]

I dont even know where to begin, I have NEVER HATED and LOVED a game so much at the same time.

Poison
Fire
Ice
Slowing Effect
Polarity goblins that drop in the middle of a hectic battle
ICE FOREST 4 TOKENS WTF??????
More epics
Epics that are better then slotted armour
Random Epic stat generator aka more variety of epics
BETTER DROP RATES at 80 hours 15 loot chance and 2 pieces of my set????? one that I bought in town.
More levels, shorter.
NEW GAME ENGINE the graphics look like throw up
Charms that tell you the percent on there bonus, seriously how hard is that.
A page that shows you all of your bonus
Colored runes that stack.
More room for charms in inventory
More epic class specific sets
15.5 second death scene removed
Change respawn point on deaths sometimes you spawn close other times you have to run for two minutes

ALL BOSSES ARE FOUGHT IN RELATIVELY THE SAME WAY

Sprinting option
Able to change you equipment in cyber space, I love not being able to see what charm I am salvaging to make room.
Stronger enemies

HAVE A GOD DAMNED PUBLIC BETA so you can fix everything we all complain about.

Have the god damn weapon and armor stores on the same side of the map, also being able to enter the stores without having to wait for the other player...

END RANT

moaning about the polarities is just being a baby! (you obviously play a zerker)

in any rpg you should have such things as DoT's with poison and cold and electric and slows and fire damages.. (most do have them)

Graphics are not that bad! not excellent but not bad at all.. they are classic RPG style visuals with a bit of Jazz..

i do however agree on the annoying things like having to wait for the other player before you can enter the store or the long death scene.. (should be able to skip that scene)

also agree on the cyber space and items thing as well as the being able to sprint in cyber space..

and yes Epics should be the BEST items in the game PERIOD! but there should not be MORE! of them.. just better!

also they need to add more info on weapons and armor! like instead of just saying 1% gravitation pulse. it should say what Gravitation pule does.. (so better weapon description is a must..)

other than that! your post is just whiny!


EDIT - the thing about they need to make epic drops more common is blatantly dumb! some people have had the full 7/7 within 80 hours and some have 1 in 100 hours! its all down to luck and knowing where to look...

you have not beat the game in 15 hours, you have finished a chapter.. the game is not over yet!


EDIT 2 - also moaning about dying from poison ect ect is silly.. just because you die, dont mean its wrong!, YES! the wussy zerker can almost be killed entirely just from 1 poison infection... but so could you lol.. in many games you can die from a damage over time! ( i would rather there be some resistance to elements as well as just the physical resists, maybe in the 2nd they will add that)

[sithlord20005]

Ive had a few problems in the game and they were all minor but some are just down right stupid. Here are few: 1. jump up to a skimmer then land on a mob of zombies and just sorta floating there getting blasted by rockets and the energy blast of the skimmer while not being able to swing my sword or fall back to the ground. 2. this has only happened once but it almost made me reset my game. Sometimes a enemy will get knocked down and for some reason hell just sorta play dead. he won't get up, disappear or anything like that and while he is on the ground you cannot target him. This happened last night at the part right before Garm where you kill all the enemies then the gate comes down...luckily i had a ruiner attack that did just enough to kill him...And as for the graphics, they don't look like puke but they definetely aren't great either. However, the designers think they did a great job when they do the weird camera pans that scream "look at me, look how good my game looks" all the while they just made it extremely diffucult for me to see what im slide attacking into.


I have to agree here i have never hated and loved a game this much.

[Gindall]

Yes, this game can get really annoying, there are just too many bugs.

Example: Helheim, last boss, the last door before the last battle phase doesnt want to open...all enemies dead, Hel floated to the last room...but the door doesnt move. Great.

Helheim, going through a door but the next room isnt there...I´m falling into nothing...for 5min, then I turned the game off -_-"

[Zeus]

Whats wrong with the polarities?

[SimonJ10K]

There is not much about this game I hate, but what I do is big issues. As a player or RPGs for many decades one of the few points to the whole genre is leveling up and improving equipment and as far as the 360 goes getting achvmts! this game kinda makes that pointless as the higher level you go the monsters are over leveled. i think they should remove this aspect in favour of implimenting difficulties instead. Even at level 50 getting the 'unstoppable' achvmts are virtually imposible and the game just gets stupid when you die every few minutes. I would also like the inventory screens to be more indepth as fair as the charms go, whcih leads me to aan off topic question. Does every effect and bonus connented to each level of charm add up into the final red one - even as far as the individual effects of each rune you add to the first Lv 1 charm? As far as graphics go I think they are quite good if you use the video options to select the correct TV you are playing on, other than that play a PS2 for a while and when you next play Too Human it will look amazing again. (Ok maybe they should increase the drop rate of Elite items as well!)

[Elrabin]

I dont even know where to begin, I have NEVER HATED and LOVED a game so much at the same time.

POINTLESS RANT

END RANT

Sheesh, troll, back to your lair!

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[LordPanda]

I was really hyped for the game but on just playing the retail copy, my opinion has soured.

No matter which camera mode that has been select, it's still an exercise of pure frustration. Then there is the right analogue stick combat; it's awful. That right stick is used in most games to control the camera.

Although it may have been a great idea to translate combat moves with direct analogue stick manipulation, in practice it's a clunky and unintuitive system.

Gun-combat is woefully underwhelming and coupled with flawed melee system conveys your as anything else but a powerful divine being.

The game seems to be inspired with some really intriguing ideas but the execution of them has left a lot to be desired.

Mr. Dyack expressed that the game was built with cooperative play from the ground up. However, I believe it was a huge oversight that there are no cinematics or dialogue at all in cooperative mode. SK's excuse for it's exclusion was to keep the game immediate and focused on the action. I think this was a cover for either them not being to implement it properly or not being bothered. Either way, the cooperative mode with no cinematic direction or mission briefing is a lacklustre affair and a poor effort on Silicon Knight's behalf. The fact that it doesn't even have system-link support is a huge disappointment to people who wish to game via their local network.

All this flaws really break the immersion and the enjoyment of the player who spends more time wrestling with the controls or wondering why the cooperative session doesn't have any semblance of narration or direction.

Too much style over substance and I can't believe that I'm agreeing with the majority of reviewers on this one. Hopefully my retailer will agree to refunding my money for the two copies I purchased ...

[memorate]

The only annoying thing as far as I'm concerned is the Poison. I mean, 25-30 seconds of poisioning, resulting in a slow death, and no health tokens in sight. They could've lowered the time of poisoning with say.. 10-13 seconds.

[OM Sauron]

if u dont have fun playing it, dont play it. polarities require skill to beat, they are not a "flaw" in the game. on my zerker the only thing that can kill me is 4 trolls together :( not polarities

[shotinthegob]

I think the game needs the polarity enemies as it is already unbalanced, and without them the commando class would be untouchable, polarity enemies force a commando to change tactics from shooting to melee. The camera angle can be a problem I've had it spin round on me in mid combat so I can no longer see what I'm shooting/fighting. Coupled with getting hit by an unseen exploding polarity enemy and then dying like a chump from an uncurable status effect has made me turn the air blue on a few occasions.

[ShadowofWar]

the game is alright, if not playing the death-addict zerker. Zerks can hit enemies while they are still spawning and then get a SURPRISE, sploder. Then when faceng elite trolls at lvl60, rapeage, no mount and horrible shootskills. I love killing 100 goblins a min, but death is way too easy. and why is only Hod and Hel Melee Friendly? ANYWAY, Zerkers need help in Status Effect ending, like playing with a Bio, ALL THE TIME.


Oh and when u fall off the map, u should die, not bounce up and down, watching the world go by for eternity, DEATH at the bottom of the universe there should be

[Draegloth187]

I agree with some and don't with some.

One of the things I dont like is the trolls. I've notice if they are to close to a wall getting on their back and being able to take them down is a real pain. If you add another troll. in the same area. It's trouble some.


It's like that some of the problems are minor but there are so many that it all adds up. Maybe they should of let the game testers played it longer and we wouldnt have this problem.

[JeremyEJones]

I would like to see just one change/addition before anything else. If someone up there was to be setting priorities, please make priority one the simple task of implementing a cross-character bank/storage space.

I hate having to find someone online who is willing to sit through me getting on one character, giving them an item, then getting on another character so they can give the item to that one. I don't want to have to do that every single time I want to switch things around.

And I know a lot of people have been asking for this. But this simple addition would alleviate mounds and mounds of frustration for me.

[so562cal]

The fact that it doesn't even have system-link support is a huge disappointment to people who wish to game via their local network.


I've been wanting this since day one... I really have no other concerns with the game, yes the camera is troublesome. And polarities suck when I'm on my zerker, but they're only a problem when i get careless. The graphics are good enough for me, I mean what more do you want? Much better graphics with as much as can get going on in one area of the screen and the xbox would lag....

[so562cal]

I would like to see just one change/addition before anything else. If someone up there was to be setting priorities, please make priority one the simple task of implementing a cross-character bank/storage space.

I hate having to find someone online who is willing to sit through me getting on one character, giving them an item, then getting on another character so they can give the item to that one. I don't want to have to do that every single time I want to switch things around.

And I know a lot of people have been asking for this. But this simple addition would alleviate mounds and mounds of frustration for me.

I second the vote for a "storage chest"

[Bloodright]

I would love a storage chest, as well as an option to auto sort or by filter sort your inventory. The game looks just fine on a 1080p TV or a computer monitor. (lord knows i have played worse games.)

I do have to agree that some aspects of the game are frustrating, but I havn't found anything to be impossible yet. (mind you, i still don't have a toon to 50 yet.)

[EasyLay]

on HoH if you die on the coffin whilst travelling to confront Grendle the camera doesn't reset. You are still in the game and running around but can't see yourself as the camera is still fixed on the coffin

[ShadowofWar]

these guys are the laziest smart people ever, anyother game with as many complaints would fail, but this game is addicting as hell. If they didn't have all the problems they do they could reach Halo popularity. They had a great idea then...

[spenska11]

my armor is broke and it needs to be fixed...

[Omnihilum]

If anyone has a set of legitimate complaints or improvements please post them in Legitimate Improvements/Complaints (http://www.toohuman.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4707). Make sure they are clear (i.e. put them in bullet form or highlight and summarize in a title and then explain in a few sentences).

Please don't include rants or raves, we can do that elsewhere on this site.

[xxfuterama12xx]

I dont even know where to begin, I have NEVER HATED and LOVED a game so much at the same time.

Poison
Fire
Ice
Slowing Effect
Polarity goblins that drop in the middle of a hectic battle
ICE FOREST 4 TOKENS WTF??????
More epics
Epics that are better then slotted armour
Random Epic stat generator aka more variety of epics
BETTER DROP RATES at 80 hours 15 loot chance and 2 pieces of my set????? one that I bought in town.
More levels, shorter.
NEW GAME ENGINE the graphics look like throw up
Charms that tell you the percent on there bonus, seriously how hard is that.
A page that shows you all of your bonus
Colored runes that stack.
More room for charms in inventory
More epic class specific sets
15.5 second death scene removed
Change respawn point on deaths sometimes you spawn close other times you have to run for two minutes

ALL BOSSES ARE FOUGHT IN RELATIVELY THE SAME WAY

Sprinting option
Able to change you equipment in cyber space, I love not being able to see what charm I am salvaging to make room.
Stronger enemies

HAVE A GOD DAMNED PUBLIC BETA so you can fix everything we all complain about.

Have the god damn weapon and armor stores on the same side of the map, also being able to enter the stores without having to wait for the other player...

END RANT

only thing i agree on in here is that the DoT stuff shouldn't kill you just get a hit away from death then let the monsters do the finish

EDIT: another thing i want to add in is that they should make a rune shop with actual good/Okay runes in it,
better to have a whole extra shop with okay stuff in it than 2 shops with junk in them

[CalvinWalvin]

so you want a really easy game (the no polarities), a short game (more epics), and I stopped reading after that because I was bothered enough. I'll give it to you that there are glitches, and yeah the respawn thing is annoying, but give it a rest.

[FlyingApplePie]

i would like to see some kind of player vs player system 2v2 or 1v1 would be so cool