History being written-Peyton Manning

[FoxbaT]

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Peyton Manning is the first NFL quarterback to pass for 40,000 yards in any decade.

This weekend, in the 9th week matchup against the Houston Texans, Peyton Manning needed only 19 yards to enable this achievement and he reached the world record after a 5 yard completion to the rookie wide receiver Pierre Garçon.

Now Peyton Manning needs only 4 touchdown passes to become the first in league history to throw for 300 in a decade. Go for it, Manning!!!


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Peyton Manning enjoy his great success

[Nicholbert]

This guy is ridiculous. I'm not even a Colt fan, but there is no other QB in history to compare to Manning's talents.

BTW, there is an NFL thread over HERE... (http://www.siliconknights.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12247)one of the mods will prolly move this one momentarily...

[Shaynard]

Although it is NFL related it is pretty specific, not just a NFL game discussion.. So I will leave this seperate from the NFL thread.

I can't comment beyond that because I don't watch football.. Momma says its the devil.. lol

Reading his stats and accomplishments, it seems quite impressive.

[FoxbaT]

This guy is ridiculous. I'm not even a Colt fan, but there is no other QB in history to compare to Manning's talents.

BTW, there is an NFL thread over HERE... (http://www.siliconknights.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12247)one of the mods will prolly move this one momentarily...

Well your comment at the beginning made me like :mad: "What? Ridiculous?" but then I :D because I've got your point and I agree with you although my depth knowledge in football is not really that deep.

BTW I am a colt fan and I thank this man for made me loving this game and this team. My only concern is what's gonna happen on the future, when he won't be around :confused:


Although it is NFL related it is pretty specific, not just a NFL game discussion.. So I will leave this seperate from the NFL thread.

I can't comment beyond that because I don't watch football.. Momma says its the devil.. lol

Reading his stats and accomplishments, it seems quite impressive.

Hey Shaynard, thanks for renaming the thread so people would know we're talking about Manning.

Peyton is really amazing, he knows the sport as no-one, his stats speaks for himself but stats doesn't show all his talents. You have to see him on the field, commanding the attack, calling different plays, faking a start so he'll know what's coming from defense, and in a nick of time, changing the play onec again and getting exactly what we need to continue through winning.

He's really that awesome IMHO.

Cheers man!

[Maawdawg]

Passing is more prolific now than ever before in the NFL. All the passing records that have existed will continue to fall and be reset higher and higher. Manning is amazing, he is more of an on field offensive coordinator than a QB. If you take the top 3 QBs right now and match them against any decade's best I would take the current ones. Manning, Brees, Brady being the 3.

[exkon]

Pretty impressive work, considering all his records, you think he would have around the same number of rings as Brady. But you have to admit Manning is consistent as any QB out there. Plus he has the BEST commericals of ANY QB EVER!

[Azsnas]

the only reason manning doesnt have as many rings as brady if because through the years brady has had a more consistant team around him than manning has, granted the team is made from the quarterback even if you have a great team around the quarterback you can still lose you also have to have all the other elements to make an awesome quarterback even better, manning just hasnt had that great a team around him to help in his awesomeness til now. im just sayn...

[Scorp]

It would be interesting to see how many did it over 10 years not a decade, if a QB starts in year 3 of a decade he has no shot, since he would need to be highly productive for 17 seasons to do it in his 2nd decade.

Manning is an awesome QB one of the best ever, but chosing a decade over 10 years is a misleading stat, since the year you actually come into the NFL really matters then.

[Eleazar]

Scorp I'm pretty sure that won't matter. Manning isn't just on pace to break Marino's record, he is on pace to obliterate it by about 10,000 yards if Manning plays for the same amount of time as Marino. Manning only has two seasons with less than 4000 yards, that is unheard of. In Marino's 17 seasons he only through for 4,000+ yards 6 times. Manning did that by his 7th season. In Marino's best 10 year period he came up about 500 yards short of 4,000 yards. Basically if Marino wasn't able to I highly doubt anyone else has even come close. What Peyton is doing has never been done before. The only thing that will keep Peyton from setting records so high that you won't see them broken for a decade or two is if he retires early or if Favre doesn't retire. Assuming Peyton stays on pace it will only take him 17 seasons to break Favre's TD record that took him 20 seasons to set.

[exkon]

But will history remember Peyton for the stats or the wins?

[Guirec730]

But will history remember Peyton for the stats or the wins?

All I remember from when I was forced to watch Tennessee football as a youth was that not even he could get the Vols the wins that mattered.

[Scorp]

Scorp I'm pretty sure that won't matter. Manning isn't just on pace to break Marino's record, he is on pace to obliterate it by about 10,000 yards if Manning plays for the same amount of time as Marino. Manning only has two seasons with less than 4000 yards, that is unheard of. In Marino's 17 seasons he only through for 4,000+ yards 6 times. Manning did that by his 7th season. In Marino's best 10 year period he came up about 500 yards short of 4,000 yards. Basically if Marino wasn't able to I highly doubt anyone else has even come close. What Peyton is doing has never been done before. The only thing that will keep Peyton from setting records so high that you won't see them broken for a decade or two is if he retires early or if Favre doesn't retire. Assuming Peyton stays on pace it will only take him 17 seasons to break Favre's TD record that took him 20 seasons to set.

There will be more QB's doing this NFL is geared for passing to make the game higher scoring. But I agree that Manning is one of the best ever and may be the best when he is done. If he can stay healthy he should own all the passing records that Farve has other than picks.

[Orange]

On a related note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQxWNks15MI

"He runs like my brother runs to endorsement oppurtunities."

[FoxbaT]

I think that Peyton Manning will be forever remembered

He will be the inspiration for the QB of the future, I am sure of that.

About his pace to break out the records, take a look into this:

The Manning Meter (http://www.indystar.com/manningmeter)


Cheers!

[Maawdawg]

IT all depends on how the NFL trends. If mobile QBs become the thing again people won't be looking at Manning as the QB to base themselves on. He possesses a specific skillset that allows him to succeed but I don't see him as the measuring stick for QBs. There are too many ways to judge them. He piles up stats better than anyone but that doesn't make him the best QB ever. It just puts him in the argument.

I for one am not ready to worship at the altar of Manning. :)

Once Favre retires again, and finally stays there, Manning will be the anointed QB that all the NFL broadcasters can't stop slobbering on.

[Sw0ll_MC25]

All I remember from when I was forced to watch Tennessee football as a youth was that not even he could get the Vols the wins that mattered.

True.
But Peyton has a super bowl ring.

Just no more gatorade commercials...

[Eleazar]

There will be more QB's doing this NFL is geared for passing to make the game higher scoring. But I agree that Manning is one of the best ever and may be the best when he is done. If he can stay healthy he should own all the passing records that Farve has other than picks.

Even so, minus Favre, there is no QB in the league that is even close to doing what Manning is doing. What Manning is doing would have happened no matter when he played.

[Scorp]

Look at Brady and Brees the last few years, over the long haul you need to stay healthy. Brees has a should injury and Brady a Knee. Mannign has been fortunate to not have any season ending injuries. His knee was an off season operation.

I am in no way knocking Manning just saying under the current NFL rules there will be several QB's with similar numbers when they finish, some may not be starters yet in the league.

[FoxbaT]

Look at Brady and Brees the last few years, over the long haul you need to stay healthy. Brees has a should injury and Brady a Knee. Mannign has been fortunate to not have any season ending injuries. His knee was an off season operation.

I am in no way knocking Manning just saying under the current NFL rules there will be several QB's with similar numbers when they finish, some may not be starters yet in the league.

I think that there will be many QB that does an extra effort and plays really hard to make their way.

Manning is all that plus gifted. He was gifted by the Lord or whatever positive energy you may or may not believe, which I respect.

When you see that guy on the field really commanding his attack like if he was commanding a panzer tank across the battlefield, this is just too inspiring.

I'm gonna watch superbowl game again, today.

[FoxbaT]

This week 10 Sunday Night Football was only another proof of what we're talking about.

Peyton Manning is just THAT good! :D

Cheers!

[Maawdawg]

That game was more about the Pats losing it than the Colts winning it. Pats gave that game away by going for it on 4th and long late inside their own 30. They also should have been ahead more but they turned the ball over twice inside the 5 (neither of which Manning had anything to do with). I give Manning credit but that game did nothing to prove that he is a better QB than anyone else. That game was lost by sloppy red zone offense and a poor coaching decision at least as much as Manning doing anything. Try not to assign credit too much to Manning, I understand you are a fan but you seem to be very biased towards everything being due to him.

[Azsnas]

crappy coaching and a questionable call on the refs made manning a winner for this game, he is good but he didnt win this game the pats lost it.

[Nicholbert]

either way you look at it, the Pats lost. And that makes a Monday feel like a Friday. I hope the Pats lose every game from here on out...forever. Or at least until Brady is gone.

[FoxbaT]

either way you look at it, the Pats lost. And that makes a Monday feel like a Friday. I hope the Pats lose every game from here on out...forever. Or at least until Brady is gone.

From the last three posts you were my favourite.

Of course the Pats lost the game.

But Manning no-huddle, delivering one play after another in less than 9 seconds, I'm sorry guys, it is a display of power from his side. The pats lost the game, it's a fact, but would they lost it if it was another QB on the other side of the line of screemage?

I am not sure.

Maybe it's because I am a fan and I tend to look at his game with passion.

But no one in the league nowadays does what he did past sunday to have a winning game after being 17 points behind in the score.

Cheers!

[Scorp]

Drew Brees did that after be down 21 earlier this year, does that make him better?????

[exkon]

I'm not hating on Manning at all, I love the guy. But look at the other super start QBs in the NFL...

Scrop mentioned Brees this year, the guy is having one hell of season. Still too early to see if that's what his career is going to be like. Also, the Saints have one WEAK schedule this season.

Tom Brady's has three rings, how you going to forget all of that? His numbers aren't as impressive as Manning's but his results sure are impressive.

For all the records Manning has set, he's been the Super Bowl once, but he did win it. No denying he can deliever the numbers, but is his consistent in delievering when it comes down the road?

[FoxbaT]

I'm not hating on Manning at all, I love the guy. But look at the other super start QBs in the NFL...

Scrop mentioned Brees this year, the guy is having one hell of season. Still too early to see if that's what his career is going to be like. Also, the Saints have one WEAK schedule this season.

Tom Brady's has three rings, how you going to forget all of that? His numbers aren't as impressive as Manning's but his results sure are impressive.

For all the records Manning has set, he's been the Super Bowl once, but he did win it. No denying he can deliever the numbers, but is his consistent in delievering when it comes down the road?

I know your point, I will only bring one name to this board and all will be explaned: Bill Belichick

Past year, who was the QB on NE? A guy called Matt Cassell. The Patriots made this guy looks like he was the real thing, even made the Kansas City Chiefs give this guy a load of money and basically risk their near future, about 2~3 years from this season on.

What is this guy doing now on KC? Nothing. Nothing at all. He can´t produce, he can´t run the ball himself, he didn´t even made a run TD this year - I think past year he made 2 or 3.

I mean, pats makes it easier. Bill Belichick is the genious behind all three rings Brady have.

How many playoff games and superbowl games was won by their defense? How many PO and SB games was won by Adam Vinatieri? I remember of a lot of them, and I am new at this sport so you problably knows it better.


The final question is: what if Brady was playing at the Colts, and Manning was playing with the Patriots?

I would say that Manning would have, at least, 6 rings. No kidding.

Nevertheless, I love this guy too. :D

Cheers man and sorry if I went too far.

[Eleazar]

I refuse to accept team stats when it comes to judging players against other players.

[FoxbaT]

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