Stargate?

[Null17]

Who all has watched Stargate? I'm down to the last 2 episodes of SG-1, Season 1. (Thanks Hulu! Now put up the next season!). So far, its really good. Anyone else like it?

[The Skoomaeater]

I liked SG-1. Atlantis a pile of wank IMO. Teal'c is a great character. You might not have seen him yet but you will grow to love him.

[SamTheSlightlyGood]

I think that the first, the movie, stargate should have been the first stargate.
I don't like the others.

[Null17]

I liked SG-1. Atlantis a pile of wank IMO. Teal'c is a great character. You might not have seen him yet but you will grow to love him.

Nah, he pops up REALLY early on. And yeah, he's awesome. Best line ever "What is an Operah?

[samski]

I've probably watched every episode thus far.

I really like it. It is sometimes really cheesy, but so far..great concept.

I loved the original movie.

samski

[iron]

I have all of the SG-1. It goes down hill after...well, I won't ruin it. :p

[Eleazar]

Great show, so is Atlantis, and no it doesn't go down hill.

[Hawk280]

I watched a few episodes of SG-1 a few years ago but never really got into it.

I might start watching it on hulu now that I know its there.

Seems like lately the only "tv" I watch is on hulu. Ha I guess they have taken over my brain. Oh well.

[Null17]

I watched a few episodes of SG-1 a few years ago but never really got into it.

I might start watching it on hulu now that I know its there.

Seems like lately the only "tv" I watch is on hulu. Ha I guess they have taken over my brain. Oh well.

Yeah, same. More convenient. I've watched every episode of Kings and Lie to Me on it, and new episodes of Bones as they come on. I'm just waiting for hulu to post Season 2 of SG-1....I needs it.

And wish I could see the original, but don't know if/when.

[Eleazar]

I'm assuming that they will only have one season on at a time since season 1 expires in June. I would assume it would be around that time, but I don't know how Hulu normally handles these things.

[Guirec730]

I watched one episode of SG-1 and knew that they were going in a different direction than I would prefer.

I still love the original film, though. I watched it with all my friends in 6th grade the day it came out before I moved half a world away. Good memories.

[Eleazar]

What direction did you think they were going in?

[Guirec730]

It wasn't dark enough for me.

And MacGuyver was in it.

[Eleazar]

You probably would have liked Atlantis, and you will probably like Universe. Atlantis was "darker" (the main enemy were basically vampires), and Universe is supposed to be even darker. Personally I prefer my TV to be lighthearted, while my movies are darker.

[Guirec730]

Vampires? Hmm...I don't know about that.

I've been trying to get my gf to watch the original movie with me but she refuses to see James Spader as a nerd. Apparently he is all kinds of cool in that Boston Legal show and she doesn't want the image tarnished.

[JacobChulainn]

Nah, he pops up REALLY early on. And yeah, he's awesome. Best line ever "What is an Operah?


Best line ever: "I guess I could Macgyver something up."

S1E1, Carter to Jack(Macgyver). You can see him almost crack a smile when she says the line.

In a later episode featuring Carter's ex-husband who has went insane and become a despot on one of the planets, "All these years I have been looking for god ... and here I am.".

[Redenbacher09]

The original movie was great, but everything that followed was very corny and a 'ripoff' at best, in my opinion. I don't think this is the first thing SciFi has done that with either :p.

[Maawdawg]

I am a huge fan of the original movie. I never got into the TV series though. Any time I am flipping channels and run across Stargate I am definitely watching the rest of it.

[Wiiggin]

I freaking love the Stargate franchise. The original movie was very nicely done, if a little campy, and SG-1 and Atlantis, even though they follow a slightly different mythos, are great extensions of the ideas presented. The writing is top notch, and the air of comedy thrown into all aspects of the characters is welcome. They're well developed, and the shows are always about humans looking out into the vastness of the universe and how they deal with it. SG-1 gets a little silly toward the end of it's run (10 seasons!), but it maintains the high caliber of the writing all the way through.

My roommate and I have plowed through all SG-1 and 4 and a half seasons of Atlantis since September, and I love the marathoning of it. I couldn't imagine having to wait months between seasons, the way they leave some of the season finales hanging. We also watched the two SG-1 movies, The Ark of Truth and Continuum, which are both very good as well.

The Ark of Truth continued and wrapped up the Ori arc from the last two seasons of SG-1, putting that story to bed very well. Continuum is a stand alone story involving Ba'al, and I was very nicely surprised at how well it turned out. It brought back the kind of feeling that early seasons of SG-1 invoked, which is always good. The writing and production values are high, as always.

Atlantis has a different feel to SG-1 because of the different characters, but it also shares the same stellar writing staff. A shame that Atlantis only has 5 seasons, as there still feels like there's so much they can still tell about the expedition. But there is the upcoming Atlantis movie (codenamed Project Twilight) to continue the adventures. Not to mention the next SG-1 movie codenamed Project Terzo. And the new series Stargate Universe premiering this fall on Sci-Fi (I refuse to call it SyFy; God, that's a dumb name).

There's plenty of Stargate to be had, and it's all amazing. If you like science fiction at all, give SG-1 a chance. The Stargate movie is good as well, but it's less accessible than SG-1, I've found. James Spader is amazing as Daniel Jackson, though. Having also enjoyed Boston Legal immensely (I use a Boston Legal avatar haw haw), I can say that seeing him as Daniel doesn't tarnish the image of Alan Shore in even the slightest. Amazing actor, all around.

[AKAtheMilkman]

I like michael shanks as daniel Jackson mch better then James spader. But I also like the current version of the character better then the first few seasons of sg-1. He seems to be much more of an Indiana jones type now.

[Wiiggin]

Well, yeah, the character has evolved, and Michael Shanks' Daniel Jackson is different than James Spader's. I like the way they both played him, but they're both unique. Spader's performance if one of the strongest aspects of the Stargate film, in my opinion, and Shanks' Jackson is just as integral to SG-1.

*shrug* I like them both.

[AKAtheMilkman]

I actually haven't seen the movie n a while I think I'm gonna go find it some where and watch t later today

[Guirec730]

If you keep your eyes peeled you can see Djimon Honsou (the main character in Blood Diamond and Amistad) in at least one scene of the original film.

[Eleazar]

I never realized that Daniel Jackson was played by a different guy in the movie as the TV show. Granted I didn't see the movie until a year after the series was done, but I just assumed that is what Shanks looked like back in 1994, I mean they do both look fairly similar.

[Guirec730]

French Stewart was an...interesting pick for the Snarky Marine archetype (made famous by Bill Paxton in Aliens)...oh, what was his name...

Feretti. That's what it was. Did he come back in the show?

[Wiiggin]

Ferretti does appear in SG-1, with a different actor, in a bit part here and there in the first season. They play on the camaraderie built in the movie, but he gets shifted to the background and disappears fairly quickly. Kawalsky (again, different actor) has a larger role than Ferretti does.

In fact, the only actor shared between the series and movie is Alexis Cruz, who plays Skaara.

[Guirec730]

Well, I'm glad they brought them back at all.

Was Skaara Sha'uri's brother?

[Wiiggin]

In the series she's Sha're, but yes.

[Guirec730]

I might have spelled it wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's how it was spelled in the novelization.

The subsequent novels were presumably far different than what occured in the series. I have at least 4 of them...I don't think they ever completed the series.

They detailed a war with an Egyptian (Alien) goddess who takes over where Ra left off, and womps our armed forces all over the desert planet. She doesn't get beyond the Colorado bunker on Earth.

Then there was a lot of stuff about war with a race of cat people. It wasn't very interesting.

[Wiiggin]

You spelled it right, no worries. Like O'Neill, they changed the spelling on Sha're's name in the series.

Movie --> Series
Jack O'Neil --> Jack O'Neill
Sha'uri --> Sha're

The series uses a slightly different mythos than the film. Ra, some kind of humanoid alien thing became a Goa'uld, with all the details therein, the Stargates went from connecting planets across the known universe to being (mostly) restrained to our own galaxy. Among other things.

[Guirec730]

Ra, some kind of humanoid alien thing became a Goa'uld, with all the details therein,

Explain this part. Ra isn't space toast?

[Wiiggin]

No, he is space toast. Quite dead. But his race is something different than what the movie implied.

[AKAtheMilkman]

No, he is space toast. Quite dead. But his race is something different than what the movie implied.

The consept remained the same but in the movie it seemed like Ra possessed the human like a demon where as in the show they are parisitic lifeforms.

[Wiiggin]

Indeed. 10char

[AKAtheMilkman]

Indeed. 10char

I see what you did there ;) stargate joke ftw

[Wiiggin]

Well, yes and no. I have a habit of saying "Indeed", but it started long before I even heard of SG-1.

[JacobChulainn]

and Shanks' Jackson is just as integral to SG-1.


That's why Shanks came back to the show isn't it? No one liked Jonas, or the actor who played him.

[AKAtheMilkman]

I did miss shanks on the show his character has a whitty humer that I enjoy. But I did like the episodes with jonas Quinn too.

[JacobChulainn]

I thought it was a smart move picking up Claudia Black, and Ben Browder from Farscape even if Browder's acting style was similar in both shows. One of the funniest moments was when Vala was studying for her psych evaluation on earth.

[AKAtheMilkman]

I thought the second to last episode of sg atlantis was funny as hell when they're in vegas and mccay and woolsy(the doctor from startrek) are talking about aliens
Mccay, "what, do you think he's being in the startrek experience?"

Woolsy, " no, they shut that down :("

Hahaha nerdtastic

[JacobChulainn]

That episode featured some good tunes as well, mostly Johnny Cash stuff like his cover of Solitary Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uW_-Iy6a7k).

[MADDGOAT]

Classic 'Gate is the best... Especially the first five seasons, after that... well...

[AKAtheMilkman]

I personally think that the last season of Atlantis was the best. I hope every episode of universe is at least that well made

[Batou079]

I personally think that the last season of Atlantis was the best. I hope every episode of universe is at least that well made

Wow, other SG fans.
and here i thought it was even a shameful topic to nerds!
Aye, i really enjoyed Atlantis, loved early SG-1 seasons.
But once they introduced the "Auri" it went downhill for me.

I always loved the humor and how lightly these shows took themselves.
Mix it with really well done sci-fi/CG, great acting and solid stories = awesome.

If Universe is even close to as good, i'll probly enjoy it. :D

[AKAtheMilkman]

The scifi channel actually cancelled Atlantis to make universe so it had better be the sh!t

[Eleazar]

I don't think it was the Sci-Fi channel, but MGM who wanted to cancel Atlantis so they could start making Atlantis movies.

[AKAtheMilkman]

I don't think it was the Sci-Fi channel, but MGM who wanted to cancel Atlantis so they could start making Atlantis movies.

the way it happened was the show was originally pitched as an expencive stargate show. It was then decided by the scifi channel and I'm sure MGM too as the cofund the projects that it would be cheaper to make an expencive new show then it would be to resign all of the cast of Atlantis for another season. So they greenlit universe and didn't renew Atlantis.

[JacobChulainn]

Didn't Stargate Atlantis win an award for the scene of Atlantis rising out of the ocean for the first time?

[Wiiggin]

According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising,_Part_1#Reception), it won a Gemini Award for Best Visual Effects.

[Hawk280]

So I've been watching this show on Hulu and I just got done with episode 9 'Thor's Hammer' and it was really neat knowing about all the Norse stuff they were talking about thanks to not only Too Human but also this site.

So thanks to all of you who have educated me on Norse Mythology and made my Stargate viewing all the sweeter. :)

[Eleazar]

That is one of the things that I always liked about Stargate, the races represented the ancient mythologies. Although I did wish they would have used more than just Norse and Egyptian. I mean it was implied that the Go'uld were the gods of all the other religions, but they were only represented as being Egyptian gods.

[Wiiggin]

Well, as the series went on you met Goa'uld system lords that represented other mythologies.

Ba'al is Semitic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal), Cronus is Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus), Nirrti is Hindu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirrti), Yu is Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa%27uld_characters_in_Stargate#Yu), Amaterasu is Japanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaterasu), among others. Looking over this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa%27uld_characters_in_Stargate) illustrates that a fair amount (if not a majority) of Goa'uld encountered are not Egyptian.

And the Ori arc brought in the myths/tales/legends involving King Arthur and Merlin.

So they touch on others than just Norse (what little they do) and Egyptian.

[JacobChulainn]

There was an episode that suggested ancient South American people were influenced by the Goa'uld. Particularly the one who created the sarcophagus(coffin) technology you see in the film, and series regenerating wounds and bringing the dead back to life.

The original device itself(the one from which all sarcophagus technology is derived) in the canon was responsible for the "fountain of youth" myths throughout human(earth) history. It's the only Stargate SG-1 episode I can recall that had zombies in it also.

In another episode featuring a modern day cult leader who is a Goa'uld they suggest he too has influenced history, and had been hiding out on the planet for many, many years. Starting a new cult dedicated to himself at various stages of history, I forget what cults they actually credited him with in the episode but I believe they were outside the Norse/Egyptian stuff.

[Wiiggin]

In another episode featuring a modern day cult leader who is a Goa'uld they suggest he too has influenced history, and had been hiding out on the planet for many, many years. Starting a new cult dedicated to himself at various stages of history, I forget what cults they actually credited him with in the episode but I believe they were outside the Norse/Egyptian stuff.

You're thinking of Set (or Seth as they call him in the episode). He indeed was a cult leader and did those things you said. The catch there, though, is that Set is an Egyptian god (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(mythology)).

[JacobChulainn]

You're thinking of Set (or Seth as they call him in the episode). He indeed was a cult leader and did those things you said. The catch there, though, is that Set is an Egyptian god (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(mythology)).

Yes, but in the episode he had been hiding out on earth since the time Ra was forced off the planet during the egyptian revolt. They credit him with cults in different civilizations after that event, I just can't recall them right now.

Basically he evolved and worked his way into later pantheons in different civilizations.

[Hawk280]

Anyone know where I would be able to find the Stargate movie?

[Eleazar]

I know most of that, but whenever you see Goa'uld technology it is always Egyptian style.

BTW Ba'al is also an Egyptian god.

[Guirec730]

Oh man, they branched out into other mythologies? Totally strange.

The Okami fan in me loves the Amaterasu presence, though.

[Wiiggin]

Anyone know where I would be able to find the Stargate movie?

You can rent it on the Xbox Live Marketplace (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/videos/offers/58b7141f-7581-4e97-96cc-a06064890b22?cid=SLink).


Yes, but in the episode he had been hiding out on earth since the time Ra was forced off the planet during the egyptian revolt. They credit him with cults in different civilizations after that event, I just can't recall them right now.

Basically he evolved and worked his way into later pantheons in different civilizations.

Indeed, but that doesn't stop him from being an Egyptian god in the first place. I said nothing against his actions here...


I know most of that, but whenever you see Goa'uld technology it is always Egyptian style.

BTW Ba'al is also an Egyptian god.

Ba'al was a Semitic god first whose worship moved to Egypt at some point. He may have been the Egyptian God of Thunder, but that was not his original presence.


Oh man, they branched out into other mythologies? Totally strange.

The Okami fan in me loves the Amaterasu presence, though.

I agree, it's pretty spiffy. But, it's really more a bit part in the background of one, maybe two episodes. I don't recall if she even has a speaking part.

[Hawk280]

Thanks Wiiggin imma go watch it right now.

[Hawk280]

Awesome I just realized hulu put up the second season in case anyone cares.

[Eleazar]

Thanks Hawk, I'll be getting on that as soon as I can.

[Wiiggin]

My roommate and I are down to the last two episodes of Atlantis... gonna be so sad once it's over.

Fifth season Atlantis is pretty amazing. The show just kept getting better and better as it went on.

[Eleazar]

Hey Wiggin there is at least one movie guaranteed to come out, and I think they have 2 movies planned with the hope of even more in the future. So, it ain't over, just changing platforms.

[Wiiggin]

Yeah, I know. But the waiting is going to be torture! ;_;

[AKAtheMilkman]

My roommate and I are down to the last two episodes of Atlantis... gonna be so sad once it's over.

Fifth season Atlantis is pretty amazing. The show just kept getting better and better as it went on.

the last few episodes of Atlantis are some of the best of the franchise. You won't be disappointed.

[Null17]

Season 2 of stargate is now on Hulu.

[Null17]

Just finished the episode 'Thor's Chariot". If you haven't seen it, minor spoiler alert.











The Asgard mothership's architecture looks similar to that of TH's building and ship exteriors. Just thought it was cool.

[DirkPitt45]

I wish I had more time to watch the show. I only get the occasional random episode on space every now and then. To me its just one of those shows you can always count on to entertain you for an hour no mater what mood/state you're in.

[Wiiggin]

Watched the last two episodes of Atlantis recently....

Good God, those were good episodes. The series went out with quite a bang. A few opportunities for "WTF?" and things that could go horribly wrong afterward, and a few things that didn't really make sense. But I can dismiss those as problems because they had to rush to finish the series. But, all in all, very good end to a great series. Now, to see what they do with the movie...

[Null17]

And Stargate Universe. Its a HUGE Franchise, one I'm coming in late on. Which is partly why I'm looking forward to Universe--I can stay with it, not play catch up.

[Wiiggin]

Well, seeing the way they leave off season finales, I would prefer to watch Universe complete than having to wait months between seasons and the inevitable cliff-hangers.

[Eleazar]

Hey, at least you know there is going to be another season by having cliff-hangers. It is actually a great idea for a TV series. It probably guarantee's a high percentage of people will be there at the beginning of the next season. Often times I usually miss the first few episodes of a season because I have no idea when it starts again, not the case with Stargate i always made sure I was there for the first episode of a season.

[i attilla i]

All the stargates are great in my book. I'm looking forward to the next extension. There are many different directions they could take this series, we will just have wait and see.

[Null17]

Hey, at least you know there is going to be another season by having cliff-hangers. It is actually a great idea for a TV series. It probably guarantee's a high percentage of people will be there at the beginning of the next season. Often times I usually miss the first few episodes of a season because I have no idea when it starts again, not the case with Stargate i always made sure I was there for the first episode of a season.

Not always. Jericho, for example, got a cliffhanger first season, canceled, and renewed due to fans. Its not always a guarantee of a renewal. Sadly. I want Jericho for season 3.

[DirkPitt45]

JERICHO!! I loved that show when it was on. One of the few I actually took time to watch every week, and held my interest.

[Eleazar]

Well that was just a poor decision on their part. When Stargate did it, it was because they were already renewed, and knew they would have another season or movie. That is what I'm going to assume if I see a "to be continued" at the end of a season.

[Wiiggin]

Actually, for four or so season of SG-1, they thought they were canceled after the season. They learned of the continuation after the airing of the season finale. I don't remember the actual seasons that happened in, but considering how many seasons of SG-1 end on cliffhangers, it's likely that one of those season was "blind", so to speak, to the next one.

Ending a season in a cliffhanger is no guarantee of renewal, not by a long shot. FX show The Riches ended season 2 in a cliffhanger, and was canceled afterward. So no season 3. ;_;

[Null17]

JERICHO!! I loved that show when it was on. One of the few I actually took time to watch every week, and held my interest.

I didn't get a chance to watch when it was on, but blockbust rents 4 episode discs for 2 bucks, so we rented both seasons. Loved them both. Some amazing characters. Hope the movie turns out well, when it does come out.

[Eleazar]

Season 3 is up on Hulu.

[Null17]

Awesome. Thanks.