Favorite Genre of Music

[Eleazar]

As it says, what is your favorite genre of music.

[iron]

Wheres my Horrorcore/Acid-Rap/Wicked-Rap/Wicked-Sh*t? :(

[Eleazar]

Figure out what genre those sub-genre's fall under.

[iron]

All those sub-genres are the same thing though.

[Hawk280]

Ska is the way to go baby!!!!!!!

But since that's not on there I guess I'll go with rock.

[Eleazar]

All those sub-genres are the same thing though.

And they are all sub-genre's of hip-hop.

[iron]

So for this thread hip-hip = rap then?

[Gobby16]

No metal or death metal? C'mon.

[Eleazar]

So for this thread hip-hip = rap then?

Rap is a sub-genre of hip-hop.


No metal or death metal? C'mon.

Just like metal is a sub-genre of rock.

Do people really not know that 99% of the genre's you listen to is in fact just a sub-genre of a larger genre?

[iron]

Yes I realize that, but 90% of the general public accepts that rap and hip-hop are different things.

[Shaynard]

at that rate it would require a different poll for each "large" genre... A lot of Rap could fall under a pop genre as well... as could a lot of rock... all the blurry lines..

[iron]

Yay for horrible system of generalization. :D

[Shaynard]

Unfortuantly with a poll on here there was no real choice.. I think you're limited as to how many things can be included in the poll. On the whole I think the selections made were pretty good choices though.

I think I'd have to land on rock personally. It's hard to choose a favorite.

[iron]

I'm going to have to go with Oblivion on this one.

[Shaynard]

I'm going to have to go with Oblivion on this one.

He means techno....

[iron]

No, I mean the one Oblivion voted for. :p

[The Oblivion]

No, I mean the one Oblivion voted for. :p

hahaha :D lolz

[SpazROK]

Voted Hip-Hop, because the oldschool 80's hip hop is legit.

[Lunar Solar]

metal and sub rock genres are the perfect music style for too human. Nothing better than a little bit disturbed mixed with a drop of drowning pool, finished with a layer of korn, man im getting hungry.
But on the other side there is goa trance (juno reactor, with Don davis they did the music for the matrix reloaded) One song is called Conquistadore part 1, if you play that while playing Assasins creed, man that sucks you right in.

[xxSonOfAsgardxx]

I'll vote rock genre, but my tastes are wilder.
I realised today (thanks to this thread^^) that I listen more than 100 different groups of rock/metal (all kind, from true to black)/hardcore. And this count doesn't include rap artists, classic composers (Hail to Wagner !!! :P) or OST composers such as H.Zimmer & co.

I do agree with Lunar Solar, metal IS TH idealistic music: listening to Amon Amarth, Manowar or Hammerfall, or even Liquid Tension is just f***ing gorgeous while crushing mobs faces !!!

[baconbits]

None of the above

Third wave ska

[Sw0ll_MC25]

Rap music is the best oxymoron ever.

[baconbits]

Rap f*ckin sucks

[laxfish76]

Rap f*ckin sucks

:o

:o

OH NO YOU DIDN'T!

//Lax

[baconbits]

Yea, I f*ckin did

[laxfish76]

Yea, I f*ckin did

Alright, carry on.

//Lax

[The_Fallen]

Rock all the way.
Some rap songs are alright, but most of em I can't stand

[Redenbacher09]

Glad to see there are some other ska lovers in here :)

It's a sub genre of one of these, just not sure if it falls under jazz or rock... I mean, some of it could be the bastard child of punk and swing... but even then, swing falls under jazz, sort of, and punk under rock...

Yea, confusing.

I went with rock, just because I listen to a lot of it aside from ska :)

[baconbits]

Of course I love ska

Did u not see my avatar I had for months?:

LTJ
GNV
FLA

[dewdicus]

Wheres the Heavy Metal?

[Hawk280]

Glad to see there are some other ska lovers in here :)

It's a sub genre of one of these, just not sure if it falls under jazz or rock... I mean, some of it could be the bastard child of punk and swing... but even then, swing falls under jazz, sort of, and punk under rock...

Yea, confusing.

I went with rock, just because I listen to a lot of it aside from ska :)


Ha yea that's what happened with me.
Besides really any kind of Ska I'm a big fan of classic rock and jazz so I had a super tough choice.

[Gobby16]

metal and sub rock genres are the perfect music style for too human. Nothing better than a little bit disturbed mixed with a drop of drowning pool, finished with a layer of korn, man im getting hungry.
But on the other side there is goa trance (juno reactor, with Don davis they did the music for the matrix reloaded) One song is called Conquistadore part 1, if you play that while playing Assasins creed, man that sucks you right in.


Battery by Metallica should be this game's theme song.

[DenyThisFlesh]

Wheres the Heavy Metal?

Metal is a sub-genre and even it has a buttload of sub-genres now. It's getting ridiculous. There's just no way to put it all in one poll. I thought it was kind of funny to have Gregorian chant on there though. Not that it's bad, just that I don't think that's going to be chosen by many people. I've heard some and it's actually pretty cool. That being said, I'm a metalhead through and through.

[Eleazar]

I put Gregorian Chant more as a joke than to be serious, although I do think Gregorian Chant is sweet.

[dewdicus]

Metal is a sub-genre and even it has a buttload of sub-genres now. It's getting ridiculous. There's just no way to put it all in one poll. I thought it was kind of funny to have Gregorian chant on there though. Not that it's bad, just that I don't think that's going to be chosen by many people. I've heard some and it's actually pretty cool. That being said, I'm a metalhead through and through.



Metal is not a sub-genre

[Redenbacher09]

Metal is not a sub-genre


Why not? Rock being the genre, and Metal being a genre of rock, making it a sub-genre.

Are you stating opinion or fact? :confused:

[Guirec730]

The point is...Too Human is based on Viking myths. Modern Viking music=metal.

[Icarus 413]

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[Eleazar]

I'm kind of disappointed that we don't have more of a variety of tastes.

[Nicholbert]

Rap f*ckin sucks

agreed...

You can't spell CRAP without RAP. FTW.

[Nicholbert]

The point is...Too Human is based on Viking myths. Modern Viking music=metal.

Interesting approach. Where did you get this idea? Traditional Nordic music has heavy roots laid in opera and classical/folk music. I don't think Erik the Red was listening to Mastodon when he raided the lands. Although, it would have been AWESOME if he was...LOL

[Guirec730]

Mastadon is awesome. Which one is it that opens with the T-rex roar from Jurassic Park?

He WOULD have been listening to it, that's for sure.

[MasterOfDoritos]

Hardstyle Techno FTW

[dewdicus]

Why not? Rock being the genre, and Metal being a genre of rock, making it a sub-genre.

Are you stating opinion or fact? :confused:

The only similarity between the two genres are that they use the same instrument.

Listen to Painkiller by Judas Priest, Then listen to Jumping Jack Flash by The Rolling Stones.

If you think one is even remotely close to the other then I won't try to sway your opinion any further.




Rock did help in the, for lack of a better word, "Invention," of metal, but the two are very different.
Its like Jazz and Blues (Which by the way, when combined, you get rock) They both use the same instruments but are in reality VERY different

[Hawk280]

Its like Jazz and Blues (Which by the way, when combined, you get rock) They both use the same instruments but are in reality VERY different

Not really. I'm in the jazz band in my school and we play many different things including blues. We did a history lesson once on Jazz and it turns out that Blues is derived from Jazz and it shares many similarities with Jazz. They are more of like different styles of the same genre rather than two completely different genres of music.

[baconbits]

agreed...

You can't spell CRAP without RAP. FTW.

Haha I use that one all the time :p

[Redenbacher09]

The only similarity between the two genres are that they use the same instrument.

Listen to Painkiller by Judas Priest, Then listen to Jumping Jack Flash by The Rolling Stones.

If you think one is even remotely close to the other then I won't try to sway your opinion any further.




Rock did help in the, for lack of a better word, "Invention," of metal, but the two are very different.
Its like Jazz and Blues (Which by the way, when combined, you get rock) They both use the same instruments but are in reality VERY different


I won't disagree that Metal and classic rock are very different, you're absolutely right. Swine are also very different from Humans, but we're both mammals. Mammals being the genre, Swine and Humans being sub genre.

Metal was an evolution of rock, as you said, it helped with the "invention". That would make it a derivation of rock, would it not?

[Eleazar]

The great thing about rock is that it is an extremely diverse genre. You have everything from The Beatles to Slipknot to Shinedown to Elvis. All four are different, but all are considered rock.

[dewdicus]

Well whatever, we shall agree to disagree shall we?

[Hawk280]

Sounds like a good plan.

By the way SKA RULES ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SpazROK]

I wouldn't even call half of the no-talent clowns out there that call themselves rappers "hip hop artists". In my opinion, they are ruining a genre that used to be just as if not more poetic and relevant than rock in some situations. The only thing all these new guys care about is bling and driving "pimped out" cars, hip hop in the 80's was about tangible problems and attainable goals.

It always upsets me when people people lump all hip hop together and call it rap. Lupe Fiasco and Common are two modern day artists that will/should change your mind on what you think about hip-hop.

[baconbits]

True dat

Btw Hawk, what kind of ska do you listen to? Older stuff or newer stuff?

[baconbits]

I wouldn't even call half of the no-talent clowns out there that call themselves rappers "hip hop artists". In my opinion, they are ruining a genre that used to be just as if not more poetic and relevant than rock in some situations. The only thing all these new guys care about is bling and driving "pimped out" cars, hip hop in the 80's was about tangible problems and attainable goals.

It always upsets me when people people lump all hip hop together and call it rap. Lupe Fiasco and Common are two modern day artists that will/should change your mind on what you think about hip-hop.

Well put Spaz, I agree 100%

Although I'm not a big fan of neither hip-hop nor rap, I do feel that they generalize the two together far too often anymore and that rap today is all about the same stupid stuff. And to add, in rap and hip-hop today, all of the songs begin to sound the same. It gets old

[Hawk280]

Btw Hawk, what kind of ska do you listen to? Older stuff or newer stuff?

Uhh I guess you could say new stuff. Reel Big Fish used to be my favorite but I'm also a huge fan of Suburban Legends, The Aquabats, Streetlight Manifesto, The Forces of Evil, Catch 22, Goldfinger, Mustard Plug, The Planet Smashers, The Spitvalves, and Sublime.

Right now I've been listening to a lot of Suburban Legends. Really I'm a fan of all types just mainly newer stuff.

I also really like Funk.

[laxfish76]

I wouldn't even call half of the no-talent clowns out there that call themselves rappers "hip hop artists". In my opinion, they are ruining a genre that used to be just as if not more poetic and relevant than rock in some situations. The only thing all these new guys care about is bling and driving "pimped out" cars, hip hop in the 80's was about tangible problems and attainable goals.

It always upsets me when people people lump all hip hop together and call it rap. Lupe Fiasco and Common are two modern day artists that will/should change your mind on what you think about hip-hop.
I agree with you there. I have started listening to some older hip hop (Notorious, Tupac, all that stuff) and it is alot more expressive than hip hop now. I feel that the lyrics are much better, but I also find that the new stuff has a tendency to have better rythmn (the background music and such).

//Lax

[dewdicus]

I wouldn't even call half of the no-talent clowns out there that call themselves rappers "hip hop artists". In my opinion, they are ruining a genre that used to be just as if not more poetic and relevant than rock in some situations. The only thing all these new guys care about is bling and driving "pimped out" cars, hip hop in the 80's was about tangible problems and attainable goals.

It always upsets me when people people lump all hip hop together and call it rap. Lupe Fiasco and Common are two modern day artists that will/should change your mind on what you think about hip-hop.

I agree. Telling everyone about how you robbed a bank, killed a cop and raped your girlfriend shouldn't even be considered music. I see it as an arrest warrant.

[Redenbacher09]

I agree. Telling everyone about how you robbed a bank, killed a cop and raped your girlfriend shouldn't even be considered music. I see it as an arrest warrant.


Now THAT I can agree on! ;)

[SuperJay]

WOW. I'm the only one who voted Jazz?? You guys suck! ;)

And Dewd, sorry, but heavy metal clearly evolved from rock music, which itself evolved from blues. These aren't subjective opinions, they're documented historical facts regarding the evolution of music.

I'm surprised there's still so much hating on Rap out there. I would have thought our culture(s) outgrew that a decade or so ago. Weird.

[dewdicus]

WOW. I'm the only one who voted Jazz?? You guys suck! ;)

And Dewd, sorry, but heavy metal clearly evolved from rock music, which itself evolved from blues. These aren't subjective opinions, they're documented historical facts regarding the evolution of music.

I'm surprised there's still so much hating on Rap out there. I would have thought our culture(s) outgrew that a decade or so ago. Weird.

I know how you feel about that jazz thing (I chose blues because its my second favorite type of music)

and I thought we agreed to disagree about the Metal thing didn't we?

[SuperJay]

I know how you feel about that jazz thing (I chose blues because its my second favorite type of music)

and I thought we agreed to disagree about the Metal thing didn't we?

LOL, I didn't agree to anything, since I'd never read the thread before today. I guess it just seems weird to me to disagree about something that's not really a matter of opinion, but I'm certainly not going to argue it. :)

And yeah, I would have thought that maybe ONE other person would vote Jazz. Kinda sad, but I guess it makes sense given the audience here.

I'm gonna have to post some links to 'new' jazz tunes or groups playing music related to the jazz tradition, that might pique some interest. I'm sure many people just have this idea of jazz as elevator music or 'old people stuff' like Benny Goodman or, god forbid, Kenny G. (Kids, Kenny G is not Jazz. Kenny G is not even music: Kenny G is torture.)

[Redenbacher09]

Oh I like Jazz, no doubt. It's just not my favorite type of music :p

[dewdicus]

LOL, I didn't agree to anything, since I'd never read the thread before today. I guess it just seems weird to me to disagree about something that's not really a matter of opinion, but I'm certainly not going to argue it. :)



What I ment is just leave it :), I really don't want to start an argument with you guys

[kouper]

heavy metal clearly evolved from rock music, which itself evolved from blues.
Thank you for not saying something asinine like all modern rock and heavy metal came from the beatles.....

[diesel93]

Love rock.Favorite bands are Coheed and Cambria, Fall Out Boy, Alexisonfire, Pillar, Breaking Benjamin, Drowning Pool, Trapt, System of a Down, Godsmack, Linkin Park, and a little Nickelback.

[SuperJay]

Thank you for not saying something asinine like all modern rock and heavy metal came from the beatles.....

Me, say something asinine?? Inconthievable.

[SamTheSlightlyGood]

I'm the only one who said that their favorite was Orchestral?
I love all Orchestral music.
Ranging from the ones that blend Electronic with Orchestral (ES Posthumus) to just good ol' Orchestra.

[Nixon]

Folk got one vote, from me:)

[Lykathea]

Just like metal is a sub-genre of rock.

Metal is its own genre for all intents and purposes these days. By your logic the only genres that ought to be included in the poll are Classical and Popular Music--since afterall, Rock is a subgenre of Blues and so on...

Anyways I like all manner of pop, folk, rock, metal, classical and even some electronic (Venetian Snares, Boards of Canada) and trip-hop. No particular genre is better than another tbh.

[dewdicus]

metal is its own genre for all intents and purposes these days. By your logic the only genres that ought to be included in the poll are classical and popular music--since afterall, rock is a subgenre of blues and so on...

Anyways i like all manner of pop, folk, rock, metal, classical and even some electronic (venetian snares, boards of canada) and trip-hop. No particular genre is better than another tbh.

thank you!

[kouper]

Me, say something asinine?? Inconthievable.

excellent movie.

[Lykathea]

thank you!

I mean it is pretty obvious, to me at least, that Burzum doesn't sound much like The Beatles. If you want to be a reductionist you could break it down back to rock, but rock does not contain all that metal is. For instance, it should be pretty obvious that Burzum is influenced by electronic music just as much, if not more than rock, punk what have you.

I think it is too simplistic to break everything down as if one genre is solely the offspring of another, because this hides relationships between other sources that are often just as important (and this might not even include music, it could be politics, history, painting etc.).

[dewdicus]

I mean it is pretty obvious, to me at least, that Burzum doesn't sound much like The Beatles. If you want to be a reductionist you could break it down back to rock, but rock does not contain all that metal is. For instance, it should be pretty obvious that Burzum is influenced by electronic music just as much, if not more than rock, punk what have you.

I think it is too simplistic to break everything down as if one genre is solely the offspring of another, because this hides relationships between other sources that are often just as important (and this might not even include music, it could be politics, history, painting etc.).

This is the point I was trying to get across, just that I gave up instead of continuing.

[Eleazar]

I think it is too simplistic to break everything down as if one genre is solely the offspring of another, because this hides relationships between other sources that are often just as important (and this might not even include music, it could be politics, history, painting etc.).

That is just kind of obvious. That is were almost every sub-genre of music comes from. Just because metal isn't 100% pure rock doesn't mean it still doesn't fall under the rock genre. Really arguing that metal isn't rock would be like arguing that jazz fusion isn't a kind of jazz because it doesn't sound exactly like ragtime. No matter where you look everyone defines them both as being jazz. Jazz is a genre that has a wide variety of sub-genres, as does rock. With every sub-genre of jazz and rock at their cores they are still either jazz or rock.

[Lykathea]

That is just kind of obvious. That is were almost every sub-genre of music comes from. Just because metal isn't 100% pure rock doesn't mean it still doesn't fall under the rock genre. Really arguing that metal isn't rock would be like arguing that jazz fusion isn't a kind of jazz because it doesn't sound exactly like ragtime. No matter where you look everyone defines them both as being jazz. Jazz is a genre that has a wide variety of sub-genres, as does rock. With every sub-genre of jazz and rock at their cores they are still either jazz or rock.

"Everyone" is not necessarily always right, especially in cases such as metal where "everyone", to be perfectly honest, usually has no idea what metal actually is. Now, I am not denying the link with rock, I am simply stating from a position of considerable knowledge of the genre of metal, that it is a distinct genre to anyone educated enough on the subject.

As I admitted previously, you could be a reductionist and place it firmly within the bosom of rock, as you could with any number of genres and subgenres, but to do so is to oversimplify, which demonstrates a misuderstanding of the specificity of particular popular music genres as compared to others and, moreover, to deny the importance of ulterior influences.

You bring up a jazz example, which is interesting since many metal bands also have a heavy Jazz influence as well. One notable group is Atheist, especially their late career stuff, the album Elements in particular. Are these guys simply an outcropping of rock as your overgeneralized theory suggests? No, quite obviously and as such they reveal the faultiness of your taxonomy.

In short, it would be wise in the future to include metal as a separate genre--even if you are not convinced from a practical perspective, the sociological evidence should be obvious enough in the responses you have gathered in this thread. You complain about a lack of musical diversity yet you group a huge amount of widely varying music under one heading? That's like asking for culinary preferences and only giving the categories: meat, fruit, vegetables, dairy and being surprised at the homogenous replies to the preference for 'meat' when this conceals any number of specific tastes therein.

[Eleazar]

I'm no alien to metal, I listen to it often, and it is a genre of rock. When I say everyone that means musicians and experts, not fans. Metal is one of those larger rock genre's that has spawned many more sub-genre's, but when you look at the genre it still breaks down to rock. Just to let you know jazz was one of the genre's that originally influenced rock, and helped it to become what it was.

I brought jazz into play because like rock it has a large amount of sub-genre's that can be equally diverse as rock. When Jazz was as popular as rock is today it had as many different variety of style's as rock does today. They were all distinct, but at their cores they were all the same. When a kind of music is so popular that basically everyone likes it, there are going to be a lot of different style's and sub-genre's that at first will not sound very similar.

When I was making this poll I was limited to 10 choices meaning I had to look at the very core of a genre, and be picky. It isn't oversimplification, it was adjusting to my limitation's, and following the commonly accepted genre's. Now if I did a poll for solely popular music today the larger sub-genre's or rock like metal would have been included. Just because two people think it is it's own genre when even musician's classify it under rock doesn't mean it needs it's own option.

Really with the except of country recieving 0 votes the votes fell about how I saw them, with rock recieving the overwhelming majority.

[AKAtheMilkman]

I'll have to diagree with you on this one El. Metal is definitely it's on genre of music. Yes it was spawned from rock but it has surely taken on a life of it's own in all the years it's been around.

Saying metal is rock is like saying that rap is jazz. Yes rap may have been spawned from jazz but I wouldn't consider rap a part of it nor would I consider metal apart of rock and roll.

[Eleazar]

There is one flaw with that milkman, rap is drastically different from jazz, while metal is not drastically different from rock.

[AKAtheMilkman]

If you listen to a truely rock and roll song then listen to a metal song they sound nothing alike. Yes they are played with the same instruments but the sound, attitude, and overall vibe of metal is drastically different then rock.

[Lykathea]

There is one flaw with that milkman, rap is drastically different from jazz, while metal is not drastically different from rock.

It depends what you are comparing, some bands are more rock sounding than others, while, as I have said others are not (i.e. Burzum has much more in common with ambient electronic music than rock). And surely there is a world of difference between stuff like Blut Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega, and Crimson Massacre to stuff like Led Zeppelin.

And really you shouldn't complain about not having room when you put Gregorian Chant in your list of options.

[SuperJay]

LOL, wow, you guys.

FWIW, I don't think anyone is saying "metal is only rock, always, period." Metal as we know it effectively evolved from rock, and obviously at this point (with a history stretching back several decades) it can safely be considered its own genre. Yes, many metal bands are influenced by other genres, that's just stating the obvious.

So much nitpicking over a simple poll... yeesh. :)

[Eleazar]

Chanting is a genre of music, just because it isn't very popular doesn't mean it isn't deserving of a spot. I particularly actually like gregorian chanting, granted it is tough to find.

Anyways, when I hear metal of any kind I hear the elements of rock taken to an extreme. That is what metal is. There is nothing there to define it as its own genre, it is rock taken to the extreme. Yes, they are influenced by other kinds of music, but every genre of music is influenced by others. Every individual artist has other genre's that influence them.

[Lykathea]

Chanting is a genre of music, just because it isn't very popular doesn't mean it isn't deserving of a spot. I particularly actually like gregorian chanting, granted it is tough to find.

You said including it was a joke, that's all I was pointing out. The merit of the Gregorian Chant "genre" is beside the point.


Anyways, when I hear metal of any kind I hear the elements of rock taken to an extreme. That is what metal is. There is nothing there to define it as its own genre, it is rock taken to the extreme. Yes, they are influenced by other kinds of music, but every genre of music is influenced by others. Every individual artist has other genre's that influence them.

Then you should say the same about rock to blues--there is nothing to define it as its own genre, rock is just blues taken to the extreme.

The point is that you can't have your pie and eat it too. Genres included on your list are thus not simply the product of logical deduction, but of biased choice on what you think constitutes a separate category or not.

[Icarus 413]

Give 'Em Hell was considered to be Hardcore Rock 'N Roll.

[SuperJay]

So much nitpicking over a simple poll... yeesh. :)

:rolleyes:

[Guirec730]

We must never stop fighting the enemies of Metal.

[JacobChulainn]

I don't listen strictly to one genre, nor do I have an overwhelming favorite. If I had to choose though it'd be Funk, which isn't on the list.

[Null17]

Probably rock, though I do like country, or some of it.

[BasicBreakdown]

Lovin the fact that there are still some third wave ska lovers out there. :)

Reel Big Fish, Mad Caddies, and Streetlight Manifesto all the way!!!

[BritishCracker]

Where the hell is Heavy Metal!

dont say rock because there different kinds of rock! & hevay metal isnt anything to do with rock lmao!


Five Finger Death Punch --- Rules!!!

[dewdicus]

Where the hell is Heavy Metal!

dont say rock because there different kinds of rock! & hevay metal isnt anything to do with rock lmao!


Five Finger Death Punch --- Rules!!!

you're a bit late to that argument lol

[MADDGOAT]

Gregorian Chanting - FTW!