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Shaynard

03-11-2009, 12:53 PM

I am soooo excited this is here... I competed in martial arts for 9yrs, my first comp was when I was 8. So I am a very big fan of professional fighting in general, and MMA is a great example of that.

My favorite MMA fighter is Anderson Silva.. I was excited when he entered the UFC, and have been very happy to see what he's done there. I havn't been paying much attention to the "goings on" in MMA for the last month or so.. But that can change now.

UFC in Canada!!!!

"UFC middleweight champion Anderson “The Spider” Silva returns to the Octagon on Saturday, April 18th to defend his crown against number one contender Thales Leites in the main event of UFC 97. The pound for pound king has already defended his title more times than anyone in UFC middleweight history and will battle Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt Leites - winner of five in a row.

Also featured in the UFC's return to Canada is the light heavyweight showdown fans have waited for years to see, as UFC legend Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell squares off against Brazilian superstar Mauricio "Shogun" Rua in what promises to be one of the most explosive bouts of 2009. "

I am pumped!!!.. Silva's fight will be great, and Chuck VS Shogun should be great as well.. To all the Liddell fans out there.. He might lose this one.

PLOWKILL

03-11-2009, 01:13 PM

ICEMAN.... Cant wait to see him get knocked out again!

I also want to see Brock loose his belt... Im not a fan of either one of those guys, but if I had to rate my hate I would hate Brock the most. Yes hes a good wrestler but all he does is use his size and power to win matches. I like watching skilled fighters like Silva and Pierre (yes Im a fan of the Canadian). :D

Now I know Im goint to receive some flak for saying he wins by using his size and power.... But I think most of you know what I mean. He takes a few punches.... charges... then hammer fist untill they call the fight.

It would be more entertaining if they put a Bull in the ring! :cool:

Shaynard

03-11-2009, 01:19 PM

Maawdawg

03-11-2009, 01:20 PM

I am pumped!!!.. Silva's fight will be great, and Chuck VS Shogun should be great as well.. To all the Liddell fans out there.. He might lose this one.

I agree with all of this. That Silva fight should be amazing and I think all Liddell fights are 50/50 with him. I feel he is past his prime and beatable now but he still has that ability to catch someone and put them out instantly.

My favorite fighters to watch are...
Silva
BJ Penn
Matt Hamill (his story and ability are great)
Michael Bisping
Jens Pulver
Spencer Fisher
Forrest Griffin
Ken Florian

Can't stand...
Tito Ortiz
Matt Serra
Bandon Vera
Karo Parisyan

I have been watching UFC since the very first PPV on satellite. It has come a long long way since then. I really like The Ultimate Fighter reality show as well. After watching a few seaons you really get to know a lot of fighters and end up with some definite rooting interests for and against people. It is a brilliant idea.

Maawdawg

03-11-2009, 01:25 PM

I also agree on Lesnar, he doesn't have a lot of technique right now. He just flat out overwhelms people. If he catches up to the curve in skill and training, which may take a couple years, he will be unbeatable.

The heavyweight section is really weak right now, just like in boxing. I really don't see anyone else that can be dominant there. I miss Andrei Orlovksi. He was definitely my favorite heavyweight, then that gangly freak Tim Silva had to go and ruin it.

PLOWKILL

03-11-2009, 01:31 PM

I agree with you regarding Lesnar for sure.. I have yet to see anything impressive from him other than his strength (which is insane, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbeFz07nFPg ) However, without anyone seriously skilled yet able to contend with his size and power, he maybe Champ for a while.. The lower weight classes are generally better fights.

St Pierre is awesome.. great fighter and a truly nice guy in person ;) I am always cheering for him.. Would really like to see him move up to fight A. Silva.

That would be a great fight but Silva would screw Pierre up in my opinon. Silva is like watching a TV Ninja... Hes freakin awsome and hes a super nice guy even though he cant speak a lick of english.

Have you ever seen the video of Silva loosing while he was with Pride to that little japanes guy? If not you need to look that one up. That was the most amazing martial arts move Ive ever seen. Now that was something straight out of a TV show! :o

Shaynard

03-11-2009, 01:56 PM

Definatly saw that loss of Silva's.. That was a really neat trick :rolleyes:

Yoshihiro Akiyama is now in the UFC.. I'm sure few have seen him fight, but you should. great addition.

I think St Pierrre would do better than you would think.. but would probably still lose.

I can't wait to see what Amir Sadollah does with himself as well.. he won the second last Ultimate Fighter show, but missed his first real match due to a leg infection.. I hope he does well I was rooting for him to win that show.

Magnum

03-11-2009, 02:23 PM

Who saw the fights this past weekend?

The tiny punch heard 'round the world was freaking insane. I forget his name as this was the first fight I've ever watch of the UFC. Dude only had about 8 inches to throw that punch and down went Gonzales(SP?).

The Matt guy and the NYC kid was freaking surprising too. I thought that guy from NY was going to tear the other guy apart.

All in all I can definately see the draw to this sport now. At least watching it any way though I probably won't make a splendid effort to see further matches. It was fun to watch.

Maawdawg

03-11-2009, 02:28 PM

I missed this past weekend's PPV, my friend invited me down for it but I was under the weather. I really wanted to see the Matt Hamill fight as he is one of my favorite fighters. A tough guy who is just unusually strong for his size. I don't know if they mentioned that he is deaf in the PPV, but that is the most amazing thing about the fact that he is a high level competitive guy in the UFC. I missed the punch you are talking about too. I will have to get a tape of the show this week and watch it.

Magnum

03-11-2009, 02:29 PM

I can tell you what happened in the Matt Hamill fight. Don't want to ruin it for you if you wanted to see highlights of it or something. Guess there were two Matts fighting that night.

Ahh...it's easier(and just plain awesome) to just show you.

KO!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7xX_Slyqbo)

Heard they're making a movie about this guy.

Shaynard

03-11-2009, 02:37 PM

I was excited to see Rampage back, and can't wait to see him fight Evans..

Matt Brown was a guy I wanted to see do well too. I was happy.

PLOWKILL

03-11-2009, 02:41 PM

Im a Rampage fan aswell.

Magnum

03-11-2009, 02:44 PM

Here's the Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Shane Carwin fight.

http://www.myvideofight.com/video/ufc/ufc-96-gabriel-gonzaga-vs.-shane-carwin/index.html

Carwin tooks some heavy hits and still didn't go down. Then delivered his own KO punch.

My friend who bought the PPV told me Jardin had the first round. I disagreed saying it looked like Jackson had all three to me just before they read out the results. Jackson worked Jardin down and that was a good strategy. Jardin didn't look like much after about half way through the second round.

Shaynard

03-11-2009, 03:03 PM

If jardine had any part of this fight it was the first part of the first round.. I never felt it was completely lopsided, but Rampage seemed in control.

DenyThisFlesh

03-11-2009, 03:55 PM

I love MMA. I would have to say my favorite fighter right now is probably Uriah Faber. He's just fun to watch. Anderson Silva is great too.

It's awesome to see Matt Hamill doing well. I saw him when he was on season 3 of the Ultimate Fighter. The fact that he's gotten better at striking makes him incredibly dangerous. His wrestling skills were already top-notch so he's going to be fun to watch now and in the future.

TonyOrtiz15

03-12-2009, 02:38 PM

Georges St. Pierre is my favorite. Rampage, Bisping, and Mir are next in line in who I support.

I want to see more Amir Sadollah. He won TUF7 by just tapping out everyone. I like submissions and jiu-jitsu.

Janot79

03-12-2009, 02:51 PM

PLOWKILL

03-12-2009, 02:55 PM

If jardine had any part of this fight it was the first part of the first round.. I never felt it was completely lopsided, but Rampage seemed in control.

Im trying to job my memory... But your talking about the fight that Jackson lost not to long ago...

That was a messed up fight to begin with. Jackson went into the fight with a bummed knee. That prevented him from throwing his big throws which would have ended the fight any other day. But hey thats UFC... If your legs not working well it doesnt really matter.

TonyOrtiz15

03-12-2009, 03:10 PM

Im trying to job my memory... But your talking about the fight that Jackson lost not to long ago...

That was a messed up fight to begin with. Jackson went into the fight with a bummed knee. That prevented him from throwing his big throws which would have ended the fight any other day. But hey thats UFC... If your legs not working well it doesnt really matter.

No he's talking about when Rampage beat Keith Jardine last saturday. You are thinking of two Rampage fights back where Forrest Griffin got beat up in the first rounds, to deliver a lot of leg kicks, which eventually slowed Rampage down and let him win a decision over Rampage (title fight, five rounds). The Rampage fight in between those was Rampage vs. Wanderlei Silva, in which Rampage put a one-hitter-quitter down on him. He earned a title shot with this win, but he aggravated ligaments in his jaw and has to have them taken care of, so he will fight the winner of Evans (c) v. Machida, for his title match.

PLOWKILL

03-12-2009, 03:12 PM

O' thanks for clearing that up..... I havnt been following much of it lately. Im glad Rampage won though.....

Shaynard

03-12-2009, 03:15 PM

Thanx Tony.. I'm glad you found this thread.. I had you in mind when I wanted this.

Great but unfortuante update janot. :(

DenyThisFlesh

03-13-2009, 05:53 PM

for those of you that do not know. The founder of TapoUT has died in a car accident on march 11 2009. Mask as he was known, was in his car when he was hit. his car broke in half and he was DOI(pronounced dead on Impact). The MMA world lost a very influential person.

That sucks. He seemed like a pretty cool guy from the times I watched the TapouT TV show. He was really into helping up and coming fighters.

TheFacelessOne

03-14-2009, 07:30 PM

PLOWKILL

03-14-2009, 07:42 PM

Any predictions on the Rampage / Evans title fight? I met Rampage years ago when he was still in Pride at a King of the Cage match that one of my buddies was fighting in. Real cool guy, but I'm going for Evans.

Ill be going for Rampage on this one.....

And ya I was surprised how funny and normal he actually is while I was wathing the ultimate fighter...

TonyOrtiz15

03-15-2009, 12:33 AM

Xx Tikki xX

03-15-2009, 01:37 AM

my fav would probably be Matt Hughes or Bas Rutten (yer i know bas doesn't fight anymore but his self defence vids are awesome) A Silva in my view is just gonna dominate UFC the only way i can see someone beating him is by making him tap.

Shaynard

03-15-2009, 03:31 PM

Well you can't assume that it will be Rampage v. Evans. If Machida beats Evans, then it will be Rampage v. Machida. I think Rampage beats either one of them, but not by much. Expect decisions in both matches.

I wouldn't be overly shocked to see Evans lose to Machida.. In the end I think it can go either way. I do agree that rampage will beat either of them, providing he's on his game.

Xx Tikki xX

03-15-2009, 05:51 PM

I wouldn't be overly shocked to see Evans lose to Machida.. In the end I think it can go either way. I do agree that rampage will beat either of them, providing he's on his game.

i watched Rampage vs Jardine on a stream it was a good fight sadly didn't see the knockout power Rampage has, Rampage vs Evans will be good, wonder if Evans will joke around with rampage like he does nearly every other fight.

DenyThisFlesh

03-15-2009, 10:22 PM

i watched Rampage vs Jardine on a stream it was a good fight sadly didn't see the knockout power Rampage has, Rampage vs Evans will be good, wonder if Evans will joke around with rampage like he does nearly every other fight.

Some of those punches he hit Jardine with would have knocked out most guys. Jardine is just tougher than most guys. He hit Jardine with a left hook that was pretty much identical to the one he knocked out Wanderlei Silva with and Jardine was able to recover from it.

Xx Tikki xX

03-16-2009, 05:05 AM

Some of those punches he hit Jardine with would have knocked out most guys. Jardine is just tougher than most guys. He hit Jardine with a left hook that was pretty much identical to the one he knocked out Wanderlei Silva with and Jardine was able to recover from it.

the end of the fight was so close i thought he would knock him out when he dropped Jardine to his knees still a great fight.

Dubbabubba

03-16-2009, 10:56 AM

Sweet a new MMA thread.

My favorite fighters (that i can think of right now) are as follows:

Clay Guida
Diego Sanchez
GSP
Rampage
Jon Jones (he really impressed me in his dismanteling of stephan bonnar and hes only like 20 years old)

I have a hard time seing anyone beating Machida at 205, I don't really like him but he's so dangerious and his game plans are superb.

Maawdawg

03-16-2009, 11:03 AM

sweet, dubba is back in the MMA thread, now we just have to dig Darrell out of retirement and all will be complete. :)

Magnum

03-16-2009, 12:00 PM

for those of you that do not know. The founder of TapoUT has died in a car accident on march 11 2009. Mask as he was known, was in his car when he was hit. his car broke in half and he was DOI(pronounced dead on Impact). The MMA world lost a very influential person.

I think I just heard today about some sort of criminal charges involved with that accident.

Shaynard

03-16-2009, 01:46 PM

Dubba mentioned "The Nightmare"!!!.. That guys is very entertaining and scary when on his game.

Maawdawg

03-16-2009, 02:25 PM

Sanchez and Guida both have that frenetic pace that I like. Always moving forward. Both are really fun to watch.

DenyThisFlesh

03-16-2009, 10:41 PM

Nightmare is pretty fun to watch. His relentlessness is what makes him great. Most fighters can't maintain that kind of pace for a whole fight.

Dubbabubba

03-17-2009, 10:27 AM

As far as I'm concerned, win loss record means very little. I like the guys who have a good attitude and who go hard.

TonyOrtiz15

03-17-2009, 02:18 PM

I have a hard time seing anyone beating Machida at 205, I don't really like him but he's so dangerious and his game plans are superb.

His fights aren't great to watch because they always end with decisions, but he wins. If he walked through both of them, I wouldn't be suprised. I doubt he'll finish either one, but decisions count just the same when it comes to getting a belt around your waist.

Shaynard

03-17-2009, 02:23 PM

I agree with you both.. Machida will go on from fighting to being an amazing fight coach.. he knows the game well and studies hard.

Xx Tikki xX

03-18-2009, 12:09 AM

I agree with you both.. Machida will go on from fighting to being an amazing fight coach.. he knows the game well and studies hard.

just like Bas Rutten, went from being the best to coaching, not sure if he still does it.

Dubbabubba

03-18-2009, 10:33 AM

This just in, Karo Parisyan is suspended for 9 months and fined 32,000$ for failing his drug test after his fight with Dong Hyun Kim at UFC 94.

heres a link
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8403&zoneid=13

Maawdawg

03-18-2009, 10:59 AM

Shamrock popped a triple positive as well, he got a year.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/shamrock-suspended-for-steroids-16535

couldn't have happened to 2 more deserving guys imo.

Maawdawg

03-19-2009, 08:38 PM

Here is a pretty good ESPN MMA talk video. They are starting to do some pretty good MMA coverage now that it is becoming more mainstream.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3996060&categoryid=2378529

Dubbabubba

03-22-2009, 10:52 AM

I've been noticing better coverage by sports stations up here in Canada too. One sports channel (The Score) has a half hour show dedicated to MMA and another shows reruns of TUF. They also show MMA events (Bodog, Strikeforce, WEC ect.) as well.

Maawdawg

03-22-2009, 02:32 PM

Spike TV does a lot of recap/rebroadcast shows of older fights but they don't do a current "news style" MMA show yet. I wish they would. We also have NESN (New England Sports Network) that is owned by the Red Sox that broadcasts a lot of UFC shows hosted by Joe Rogan.

Maawdawg

03-27-2009, 12:24 PM

April first on Spike there will be UFC Fight Night 18 (live).

Key fights:
Main event: Carlos Condit vs. Martin Kampmann
Gleison Tibau vs. Jeremy Stephens
Ryan Bader vs. Carmelo Marrero
Junie Browning vs. Cole Miller
Tyson Griffin vs.dos Anjos

it will be followed by the premiere of The Ultimate Fighter;s new season. Coaches this season are Dan Henderson and Michael Bisping.

Hopefully some other people will watch it so I have someone do discuss with!

Cubefan681

03-27-2009, 07:47 PM

I'll be watching it.
TUF has opened my eyes about a lot of fighters and some I didn't like until I seen them on the show. Some I really liked, like Hughes, until I seen their attitudes on the show :(

Dubbabubba

03-31-2009, 11:18 PM

I will be tuning in most likely. I'm interested to see how Bader has improved.

DenyThisFlesh

04-03-2009, 01:35 PM

I will be tuning in most likely. I'm interested to see how Bader has improved.

I saw that fight. Bader is a beast. I didn't know much about his opponent, but apparently he's a pretty good wrestler himself. You couldn't tell from watching the fight though as Bader took him down at will. Bader dominated the whole fight. His stand up game looked improved as well. He's going to be very dangerous as he continues to get more experience.

setlord

04-04-2009, 05:16 AM

favor mma fighters by weight class

heavyweight : randy couture just becuse hes freaking randy couture or frank mir if he beats lesnar for the title it would cap an already amazing comeback

light heavy : lyoto machida hes as close to a mahamad ali in mma if there ever was one i always think of mortal combat at the end of his fights "flawless victory "

middleweight : anderson silva probably the single best striker in all of mma with strong bjj to support his standup hes just vicious

walterweight : gsp easily the most well rounded, skilled and disciplined fighter in all of mma his next fight could be very dangerous though

lightweight : bj penn hes just fun to watch his skills although not a honed as others are well rounded his biggest weakness has to be his overconfidence and overall lack of training you almost expect him to gas at some point in every fight you just have to hope he finishs before he cant continue like his first fight with gsp in any of you remember it or maybe kenny florian his muy thai is really coming around i love it when he slashes heads wide open with those nasty elbows

Maawdawg

04-04-2009, 09:34 AM

setlord

04-05-2009, 04:42 AM

I like everyone on your list, except I am not a big couture fan.

Machida is awesome to watch, he makes people who try to strike with him look dumb repeatedly in his fights. I love watching the fight he had against Tito Ortiz. He got more swings and misses in that fight than I think I had ever seen before. Ortiz was frustrated and beat up by the end and since he is probably my least favorite fighter in MMA I liked it.

lol i loved seeing tito leave ufc with such a lopsided loss it was just classic his post fight interview hes all i tried my best

the rashad evans vs lyoto machida fight should be really good

and how can you not like randy couture hes like 50 and still fights with such energy and aggression im not saying hes the most skilled but its pretty inspiring to see him fight and fight competitively at his age i doubt any of his opponents just walk in there thinking hes some sort of push over you know what i mean

Ender

04-05-2009, 05:24 AM

I watched Randy Couture on one of those Fight Science shows on either Science or Discovery Channel, and he is a beast. He was throwing ground and pound hits with over 2,000 lbs of force with each blow. I believe it was Randy; I could be wrong though.

I did enjoy watching BJ Penn take apart Sean Shirk a while back. Sean looked so explosive, and Penn so calm.. almost sedated, but he still beat the absolute crap out of Sean.

Maawdawg

04-05-2009, 10:19 AM

It isn't that I hate Couture I am just not a follower or a fan of his. I od'nt love him or hate him, he is just there.

That was Couture in that show, I saw it on Fox Sports Network. Standing punches for 1000lbs of force and mounted punches (and elbows/forearms) got up to 2000 pounds. I think him using the elbow a couple times helped that but it really showed why people get knocked out. A ton of force to the face will do it.

Penn sometimes looks bored in the ring. He is such an amazing fighter. At times he goes against guys you would think should beat him and he totally outclasses them.

DenyThisFlesh

04-06-2009, 06:58 PM

Anybody watch the WEC event last night? Miguel Torres is awesome to watch. Mizugaki gave him a really tough fight, but Torres dominated the majority of the fight. I give Mizugaki a ton of credit though. He stood toe to toe with Torres for the whole fight. Not too many guys could do that.

Dubbabubba

04-19-2009, 01:24 PM

Maawdawg

04-19-2009, 01:29 PM

Sooooo UFC 97?

Here are my thoughts.
-Its sad but I think the Iceman is done.
-Anderson Silva is half the champion that Rich Franklen was.
-Leites is a pansy, I want Cote v Silva 2.
-It was good to see Soszynski and Kongo win.

I only watched the highlights and read some online coverage but here are my 2 major thoughts.

-I haven't enjoyed any of Chucks last half dozen fights so I will be fine without him. His fun stopped being fun to watch about 2 years ago for me.
-I think Silvia is starting to lose his reputation of dominance now. He either needs to go on a string of a few really quick dominant wins or he will never get it back. I really think the lack of competition in that weight class is what made him look so good for the period he was great.

setlord

04-19-2009, 03:35 PM

losing 4 of his last 5 fights 3 by way of knockout chuck is definetely done even the other 2 fights where he wasnt knocked out i believe he was knocked down at least once in both fights either way he needs to quit

silva doesnt fight aggressively enough you would think that someone with his level of skill and confidence would be more willing to pour on the attacks

i remember while watching his fight last night wondering why he wouldnt just steam roll this leites guy when leites was clearly fearful of silvas strikes

i dont wanna say silva fought with fear but it sure seemed like he was fighting to not lose rather then fighting to win almost reminisent of silvias last few fights as the heavyweight champ

as for the competition in the 180 lbs weight class there doesnt really seem to be any currently i would like to see him take on some more fights in the 205 division or fight gsp assuming gsp wins his next fight

Shaynard

04-20-2009, 12:01 PM

I watched the Silva and Liddell fights but missed the rest..

I wanted Chuck to lose this fight...

In my opinion, Silva hasn't lost anything . I saw 3 rounds of Silva playing with him, much like Roy Jones Jr. used to do in boxing... I understand the thought that he should, as he could, end the fight quickly. However I don't feel like he lost anything.. Either way, he needs better competition.

Welcome Back Shogun.. I hope his knees are ok and he continues to rebound...

setlord

04-20-2009, 01:23 PM

PLOWKILL

04-20-2009, 01:37 PM

Its time for the ICEMAN to chill out, outside of the ring.... I think he crossed his prime and its time to move on to new things... maybe back to accounting :o

O' wait thats old things.... never mind....

setlord

04-20-2009, 07:01 PM

yeah his last few fights other then the rashad evans fight the hits that knocked him out didnt appear to be knockout blows but as soon as they connect you see chucks head flailing about and him dropping like a ton of bricks

i wonder if he hasnt suffered to many concussions throughout his career making him more of a sitting duck then the lurking predator he once was

in the rashad evans fight i have to give it to rashad he danced around at set the shot up ... it was a nasty blow that absoulutely destroyed chuck

PLOWKILL

04-20-2009, 07:08 PM

Ever since the Rampage Loss.... he hasnt been the same.... Then he came back just to lose again then he won one then lost the next...

I think his pride got hurt and he just couldnt and cant come back...

I say quit now while you can still get indorsments and have a good rep.

Shaynard

04-21-2009, 11:41 AM

I agree regarding Chuck.. He should definitely adjust his focus at this point.. He did great things for the sport.

I also would like to see Forrest Griffen fight Shogun again now that Shogun has regained his form.. Just to see if that theory is correct.. I'd bet it would be.

Maawdawg

04-21-2009, 12:17 PM

I am sure if Liddell decided to jump into the front end of the business he would do well. He is a known name. He could even latch on to a place like ESPN, who seems to be expanding its MMA coverage, as an analyst or something. I don't think he has much future in the octagon anymore. He is 40 and obviously on the downside of his career.

Maawdawg

04-26-2009, 09:48 PM

The next UFC PPV is going to be Rashad Evans v Machida as the main event, and Serra v Hughes as the grudge match undercard match. Those 2 should be interesting. I think the main event will be a fabulous fight. I hope Hughes pummels Serra into the groud though, I can't stand him.

The whole card is here.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetail.fightCard&eid=2001

setlord

04-26-2009, 10:17 PM

if serra keeps the fight standing i think he will own hughes however if hughes takes him down look for some nasty ground and pound to be unleashed on serras face

should be a fun fight either way

however the fight i am excited for is machida v evans

this should be a very interesting fight will see who can out dance who in this one

i attilla i

04-26-2009, 10:28 PM

Theres no way serra can take hughs, but the fight card I'm really pumped to see is UFC 100. With the UFC in control of most of the worlds top ranked mma's fighters all ppv shows should be like this one.:D

PLOWKILL

04-26-2009, 10:31 PM

I hate Hughs... Hate him with a passion! I hope he loses and goes for another long vacation!

He has no respect for the sport.... :mad:

i attilla i

04-26-2009, 10:45 PM

I hate Hughs... Hate him with a passion! I hope he loses and goes for another long vacation!

He has no respect for the sport.... :mad:

Ever since I watched him coach I don't like him either. But the fact remains that he is going to pound serra(unless serra backs out again)

PLOWKILL

04-26-2009, 10:51 PM

Ive hated him ever since the Gracie fight... I dont care that he won, I knew he would but the amount of respect towards a founding member of his own sport was upsetting to say the least. Hes a punk.

i attilla i

04-26-2009, 10:57 PM

He did put a thumpn on him. Yeah he is a punk. But the fact remains that he will beat serra ( i really hope not) but he will.

PLOWKILL

04-26-2009, 11:37 PM

I dont know... Hes went down hill well more or less I think hes peak has came and went. I hope he pulls a IceMan but that may be asking to much.

He did put a whoopin on Gracie but Gracie wasnt going out like a beotch and tappin.. We all remember that arm. Yuckkk I dont know how it didnt break!! They called it because he wasnt going to tap!! Gracie is a great fighter but he wasnt ready for all the new rules that have been placed. If it was old school. Gracie would have won with out a doupt.

i attilla i

04-26-2009, 11:41 PM

ah yes old school. I still remember ufc 1 Gracie is a bad *ss

setlord

04-27-2009, 04:49 PM

Lilith

04-27-2009, 05:24 PM

I feel Hughes will win the fight, but I know I won't be cheering for him at all. Not that I am a fan of either, but respect for the sport is important. I admire his training and in fight ability, it's his disposition that bothers me. The kind of guy I don't mind seeing get beat up :)

i attilla i

04-27-2009, 05:30 PM

wow its a fact hughes will win ???

maybe youve been back to the future or something huh marty ?

well hughes might win but the whole world thought serra was gonna lose to gsp and he won that fight i think his odds to beat hughes going into the fight are astronomically higher !!!

Hughes will win, no I'm not back from the future(although that would be really cool) and yes the whole world thought serra would lose to gsp(except for maybe serra and his team) I guess your right history shows us that anything can happen but hughes will still win(even though I hope serra wins):)

Shaynard

05-25-2009, 01:40 PM

So... Evans VS Machida... Very interesting fight it was...

Anderson Silva is signed to fight Forrest Griffen at UFC101... Should be a great fight..

i attilla i

05-25-2009, 05:21 PM

I did not get to see the fight but I heard machida looked really good. And hughes did win as I predicted.:)

Shaynard

05-25-2009, 06:04 PM

I did not get to see the fight but I heard machida looked really good. And hughes did win as I predicted.:)

It could be a tough call.. Some say Machida looked good.. Some are saying Evans did nothing... It looked like he couldn't do anything to me.. I was impressed by Machida...

Hughes definitely won and I agreed with the decidsion.

SuperJay

05-28-2009, 01:03 PM

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20090518.jpg

Shaynard

05-29-2009, 06:44 PM

Jay... thats awesome... wanna come over and chill and play some gamecube?

ThEoRy

05-30-2009, 02:31 AM

It could be a tough call.. Some say Machida looked good.. Some are saying Evans did nothing... It looked like he couldn't do anything to me.. I was impressed by Machida...

Hughes definitely won and I agreed with the decidsion.

It's not that Evans didn't do anything, he couldn't do anything. Seems like his chin may be suspect as well.

Xx Tikki xX

05-30-2009, 03:44 AM

Evan really couldn't do anything at all no matter what he would of tried just would of failed, Machida was just able to stand back and strike while Evans if he wanted to do anything would of had to rush in and he would of just gotten eaten a live, as much as i love Evans fighting style, Machida was the trump card to Evans

Shaynard

05-31-2009, 04:22 PM

It's not that Evans didn't do anything, he couldn't do anything. Seems like his chin may be suspect as well.

Thats what I said too...

I'm not sure I'd call his chin suspect though.. Perhaps his heart.. It looks more like he turtled and crumbled instead of actually being knocked out... I'd still add it up to a lack of effort on Evans part.. he could have made it a fight but seemed scared...

Maawdawg

05-31-2009, 05:45 PM

Shaynard

05-31-2009, 06:41 PM

Machida has a habit of making good fighters get frustrated and look bad. I don't think Evans was any different from how he has been in his last handful of fights. Watch the Machida vs Tito Ortiz fight. It was basically the same thing. Machida causing ridiculous swings and missed from a top end fighter and the fighter not having any idea what to do to fix it. I think people run into problems finding training/sparring partners to even simulate what he does to them in the ring.

I agree.. This doesn't make Evans look bad to me at all.. Just wasn't prepared for this.. I'm not sure anyone is yet.

MMA has focused on what fighters have made popular.. Mauy Tai, Jujitsu, wrestling, boxing/kickboxing ect.. Not to say fighters havn't utilized other arts, just that none have had great success showcasing them... It seems funny to me hearing the comment "Karate schools across the country will now have an influx of new students".. but it is true. Now that Machida has shown that it can be properly applied to MMA fighting, others will try it. Others will also recieve notice that were overlooked, either as fighter's or sparring partners.

Maawdawg

06-02-2009, 01:50 PM

Dana White is a smart smart marketing man. Next season of TUF is going to have Rampage Jackson and Rashad Evans as the coaches. The big news is that Kimbo slice will be one of the 16 fighters on the show. I am not too excited that heavyweight will be one of the classes on the next season but hopefully they can find some talent and make the division better. It is funny that White is basically going to try to make an actuall MMA fighter out of Slice after basically tearing him apart through the media for a long time. He is smart enough to realize the money to be made if he can get the Slice fans to cough up some dough. If he does even remotely well learning on the show and developing then Slice vs Lesnar could be an interesting match down the road.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=4223959

"Mixed martial arts heavyweight Kimbo Slice may be returning to television as part of UFC's "The Ultimate Fighter" reality series, Yahoo! Sports reported. According to the report, UFC president Dana White, who has repeatedly scorned Slice's fighting skills, confirmed Slice will be of one 16 contestants appearing in the series.

"It should be interesting, given some of the things I've said about him," White said, according to the report.

Slice (3-1), who rose to prominence via Internet footage of his street brawls, turned pro and fought on national television as part of the now-defunct Elite XC circuit. In his last bout, on Oct. 4, he was stopped in 14 seconds by last-minute replacement Seth Petruzelli. Shortly afterward, Elite XC went out of business.

White pledged "some major surprises" for "The Ultimate Fighter" last Thursday, when he announced that former UFC light heavyweight champions Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Rashad Evans would serve as coaches for the 16 fighters on the show, Yahoo! Sports reported.
In the show, the 16 fighters live together and fight each other, with the eventual champion winning a UFC contract.

White earlier had insisted he would not allow Slice into UFC unless he won his way onto the show by competing on "The Ultimate Fighter," according to the report."

Shaynard

06-02-2009, 02:11 PM

Wow.. Kimbo finally agreed.. He earned a point of respect from me.

This has been in "talks' for a while now, i've heard it as a rumour since the White VS Slice battle started.. It also adds truth to a rumour I had heard they were 'stock piling" heavyweights in hopes that one big influx all at once would bring life back to that division. For some reason, unlike in Boxing, Heavyweights seem to have a hard time with consistancy in MMA.. Because 'anything can happen' and those men are so large and powerful, "anything" happens more often than not.. Which means the Title constantly changes hands and the rankings are constantly revolving..The best possible solution for any one fight organization is to have a deep talent pool.. I have always wished they'd just bring all heavyweight MMA fighters to one club (like the UFC) so that the competition level can be decent.

UFC has attracted almost all the Heavyweight PRIDE Stars.. Now all they need is Fedor :rolleyes: ... I hope Kimbo uses this oppertunity to its full potential.. I remember watching a training video of his in which he seemed eager to actually learn the sport and not just be a brawler.. I hope I am right and he maintains that desire to improve... IF so, he COULD be dangerous.

Well done Dana White...

SuperJay

06-03-2009, 10:58 AM

Okay, so I watched a fight last night. I don't know who the fighters were or even which organization it was, but it took place in San Antonio and it was the main fight of the night, for some kind of championship in a light weight class.

It was pretty interesting but it ended really strangely - the defending champ somehow got his eye injured and couldn't see, so the fight had to be called. The weird thing was, you couldn't really tell how it happened, even in the replay. The officials called it an "unintentional foul" and the match went to the defending champ after 5 rounds. The champ was really upset by the fight ending like that, kept apologizing and swearing he was better than that.

All in all it was pretty cool, especially the way the fighters respected each other. It's too bad it ended with an anticlimax, b/c the two guys were really evenly matched from what I could tell.

Shaynard

06-03-2009, 02:11 PM

SuperJay

06-03-2009, 02:47 PM

BoDog Fights perhaps? (ring a bell?).. thats always the best, two guys who seem equal.. Thats when it becomes a true battle.. That or two equally great fighters with completely different stlyes are my favorite type of matchups.

Actually I went and looked it up, it was a WEC match between Carrone and Varner last night. You can check out some highlights / post-fight commentary on http://www.versus.com/wec.

It was pretty brutal, but really impressive how these guys stood up to such a beating and kept on fighting without hardly showing the effects.

Shaynard

06-03-2009, 02:55 PM

WEC has some great fights/fighter's but lack the media exposure UFC and others have... With MMA becomming more "mainstream" we should see more coverage of other organizations.. The winners?.. US!..

i attilla i

06-03-2009, 05:37 PM

Fedor is still the badest man on the planet:D

Shaynard

06-03-2009, 05:45 PM

Fedor is still the badest man on the planet:D

I would love to see if this is true. :)

DenyThisFlesh

06-05-2009, 12:50 PM

WEC has some great fights/fighter's but lack the media exposure UFC and others have... With MMA becomming more "mainstream" we should see more coverage of other organizations.. The winners?.. US!..

The WEC is owned by Zuffa now(owners of the UFC) so they will be getting more exposure. Make sure you guys watch the big WEC event this Sunday on Versus. Urijah Faber vs Mike Brown II. Faber is trying to get his featherweight title back from Brown and it should be an excellent fight.

Shaynard

06-05-2009, 01:29 PM

The WEC is owned by Zuffa now(owners of the UFC) so they will be getting more exposure. Make sure you guys watch the big WEC event this Sunday on Versus. Urijah Faber vs Mike Brown II. Faber is trying to get his featherweight title back from Brown and it should be an excellent fight.

Do you know how long ago Zuffa bought them? I just read that they did and I was curious as to when if you happen to know, if not no big deal :)

It is good news.

AKAtheMilkman

06-05-2009, 02:45 PM

Zuffa has owned WEC since 2006 :p

Shaynard

06-05-2009, 03:05 PM

Seriously?.. That explains a few things, I was not aware. In that case.. What the hell is taking them so long?.. lol... Has Dana White learned nothing from the WWE? WEC VS. UFC at the next PPV. :D

Shaynard

06-08-2009, 05:42 PM

An awesome quote from Dana White regarding Kimbo when asked about having him on TUF10 after all he said to bad mouth Kimbo.. He didn`t retract any statement and said ``If Ì end up with egg on my face it won`t be the first time.. I said Rashaad Evans was lazy and he went on to be Champion so wtf do I know`..

Love it..

``Ì do respect him for coming in and doing TUF.. I did talk a lot of **** about him, and he`s come to prove himself``

Thats how I feel as well... If he does well, kudo`s, I didn`t think he could..

Shaynard

06-22-2009, 03:17 PM

Double post and all... But... Couture's gonna fight again... He fights Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at UFC102

Oh yeah.. And Forrest Griffen's gonna beat Andrson Silva... Oops i think i said that wrong. :o

Maawdawg

06-22-2009, 07:34 PM

The finale of TUF was good this past weekend. Sanchez looked dominant against Guida in the main event, which is hard to do.

Shaynard

06-24-2009, 03:21 PM

I was glad to see Sanchez's preformance... Very dominate as Maaw said... and against no slouch either..

I am really really excited to see a few of the upcomming UFC fights..

Th three main evnts at UFC 100 should be great.. Lesnar seeks revenge on Mir.. St.Pierre is always great to watch and fighting Alves?.. Should also be a tough fight... And I am really excited to see Dan henderson back.. I hope he dominates the fight.

But whats really exciting me is UFC101... and Anderson Silva stepping up to 205lbs and fighting Forrest... I was very disappointed when Evans beat Forrest.. I can't say he didn't deserve it that night, but I think Forrest could take him on a better day.. I believe this will be the first time Silva has been truly tested as well at 205lbs.. IF he beats Griffen, he should really drop the Middleweight title and just go after the Light Heavyweight title..

An Anderson Silva VS Machida fight would be boring for most but highly entertaining for me.

Finally Couture returns to fight Nogueria.. I was a fan of Nogueria in PRIDE but was saddened to see Fedor beat him.. Hopefully he hasn't lost too much of his prior ability. Kudo's to Couture for getting back up nd fighting again after his loss to Lesnar..

SuperJay

06-25-2009, 12:24 PM

So I've been watching WEC on Versus, to the point where it's making me stay up past my bedtime to see some fights. I haven't seen any UFC stuff though - is that only ever on PPV? Cuz I'm not paying for it, but if I can check it out online or something, that'd be cool. I'd like to see all the fighters you guys are talking about. :)

Maawdawg

06-25-2009, 12:35 PM

Spike TV runs UFC stuff all the time. NESN if you get it on satellite (doubtful on cable in your area) has it at night when there is no baseball.

Spike runs a lot of UFC shows actually, here is the upcoming listing on tvguide. After the 4th of july they are running a 5 part show on the 100 greatest UFC fights which would be an awesome way to catch up on the big names. That is in the run up to the 100th ppv event.
http://www.tvguide.com/listings/betagrid.aspx?keyword=ufc

If you cant get the channel you could always look around to download some of the recent ufc ppvs.

Shaynard

06-25-2009, 12:52 PM

SPIKE as Maaw said is the best place to see in on TV for free... Their big events are almost always PPV... But it is picked up by damn near every bar/pub that offers PPV.. I'll order PPV if I can plan on having people over to watch it, otherwise I go to the local Boston Pizza.. Also, the night of the fight you can find streams.. But UFC usually gets them all taken down pretty quickly after the fight... Some people manage to keep them posted but they can require some digging.

Which brings me to the question.. Does anyone know any good sites to watch older fights on without a membership?.. youtube has some but they are hit and miss and usually poor quality.

Shaynard

07-13-2009, 01:46 PM

Anyone catch UFC 100?

Lesnar finally did what he should have done the first time against Mir.. and Mir behaved like a child after the fight.

Mark Coleman faught as well for the first time in a while.. Was interesting to see him back.

Maawdawg

07-13-2009, 02:30 PM

I missed it. I had a in invite to a friend's place to go watch but couldn't force myself to drive 40 minutes down there on Saturday night for it and I can't stand going to the Casino to watch because you come out smelling like an ashtray.

I read the writeups on the fights and saw some post fight discussion online. It seems Mir and Brock both acted like morons after the fight. The people I thought would win from the 3 main events won though. The one I was most sure of was Henderson v Bisping. I like both but I didn't think that would be a close fight at all. The one I was least confident in was the GSP pick because you never know with a striker like Alves, one second is all it takes for a fight to end with someone with that kind of striking power.

Shaynard

07-13-2009, 02:39 PM

true regarding Brock.. he was guilty of some less than favorable behaviour post fight as well.. That said, it was a pretty brutal beating.

I was really surprised that some people thought the Henderson fight would be close.. I thought he'd walk over Bisping.

I would have liked to see something more dominate from GSP.. but he fought smart and got his win against a great fighter.

Now we can look forward to BJ Penn fighting Florian and Anderson Silva losing to Forrest Griffen (yeah i'm really hoping to see Silva lose)

Maawdawg

07-13-2009, 02:59 PM

One big disadvantage for Silvia vs Griffin is Forrest is way stronger than a lot of the people Silvia has been fighting. If he cant control Forrest in the clinch he loses a big chunk of his damaging close in striking ability.

I really like Forian, he is a New England fighter and I tend to follow/root for them. That should be a really good fight fight.

Maawdawg

07-13-2009, 05:38 PM

Dana White in an interview regarding Lesnar and UFC 100.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4324642&categoryid=2378529

i attilla i

07-14-2009, 08:37 AM

Lesnar is awesome. That comment about going home and drinking a coors light instead of drinking a bud light (because bud won't sponsor him) was a classic. I can't see anyone in the heavy weight division right now that can beat him. I like fedor but I think lesnar would crush him.:)

Castrum

07-19-2009, 11:25 PM

Penny Arcade on MMA: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/7/15/

Accompanying article: http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/7/15/

i attilla i

07-21-2009, 08:25 PM

DenyThisFlesh

07-23-2009, 03:05 PM

affliction is putting on a show on august 1. Main event is josh barnett vs. fedor. I've thought for years that barnett has all the tools to beat fedor, but everytime I think someone is going to beat him he turns the fight around and crushes them. Either way affliction always puts together a great night of fights.

Barnett is out now. He tested positive for a banned substance. Vitor Belfort is supposedly going to be his replacement, but nothing is official yet.

Maawdawg

08-07-2009, 09:49 PM

Florian v Penn this weekend. I really like KenFlo but I don't see how anyone beats BJ Penn at 155 if he is in shape.

I may have to hit the casino to watch this one.

Shaynard

08-10-2009, 09:05 AM

This was a great night..

Penn and Florian was great... It looked like Florian was going to manage to pull off the upset.. BJ did well to hang on... Although I would like to see Florian win, at least he just gained a mountain of experience..

Anderson Silva.... Well holy f'ing hell.... The man is a freak... That fight with Griffen was unbelieveable... I have never enjoyed a fight more than watching that (extremely embarrassing for Forrest) knockout..

I love being proven wrong.. :)

Castrum

08-10-2009, 10:30 PM

Has the Madden Curse transferred over to UFC?

http://dualshockers.com/2009/08/madden-curse-turns-into-ufc-curse/

:-P

Shaynard

08-31-2009, 03:13 PM

DenyThisFlesh

09-01-2009, 10:45 AM

UFC 102 is in the books..

The best fights of the night were undercards, but Thiago Silva laidout Keith Jardine in impressive fashion with a KO at 1:30 of round 1.

The co-main event was of course Couture VS Nogeria ... I knew it my heart it would end this way.. I just wish they had of met a few years ago when Couture could still take a punch... Kudo's to Randy for hanging in there and not getting tapped out.

I watched all the fights after the fact on mma-core.com. That 7 second KO from Todd Duffee was sick. I kind of thought Jardine would get KO'd by Silva. Silva's only loss is to Machida and you can't feel too bad about that. The Couture-Nogueira fight was pretty good. Randy did a good job hanging in there, but you could tell from the beginning that Nogueira was feeling good and was going to win. I hope Randy comes back and wins his next fight. If he loses his next fight, then it's probably time for him to retire.

Dubbabubba

09-25-2009, 06:55 PM

Anyone see TUF10 this week? That decision was the worst one I've seen in a long time, horrible call.

Maawdawg

09-25-2009, 07:04 PM

I didn't watch it yet, I need to stream it to my PC tonight or catch it this weekend. I always forget about it on Wednesdays, I am too busy watching Top Chef.

DenyThisFlesh

09-25-2009, 07:12 PM

Anyone see TUF10 this week? That decision was the worst one I've seen in a long time, horrible call.

Agreed. Wes controlled most of the fight. James did some damage with the leg kicks, but other than that, he did nothing until the very end. Wes nearly got a submission on a couple occasions and got to the mount in the second round. I just don't understand judges sometimes.

Shaynard

10-05-2009, 12:52 PM

The Kimbo fight was disgusting...

Vitor Belfort's return was interesting.. He went against Rich Franklin, but it didn't last long.. The first thing commentators said after the fight was "Now Anderson Silva has a legitimate challenger"... I hope they at least put Belfort through another fight or two before matching him with Silva.

Can't wait to see Machida fight Rua... Should be a great fight.

Shaynard

10-27-2009, 01:55 PM

I am just pissed.. Very rarely am I ever 100% against the judges decidsions in fights, but the Machida VS Rua verdict was digusting.

I ended up watching the fight three times.. Still cannot fathom how the judges reached their choice.

In my mind Rua is the Champ until Machida can beat him.

Shaynard

11-23-2009, 01:48 PM

Tito Ortiz came back, and Forrest Griffen beat him up.. Good night :D

UFC 106 was a good night.. Some really good fights.

Amir Soddalah was awesome.. I like cheering for guys with his type of disposition... He is becoming a great fighter.

Shaynard

12-08-2009, 01:42 PM

Another season of TUF ends. The Finale event was awesome IMO. All were decent fights.

Next season Coaches.. Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz.. The fighters in the competition were said to be Middleweights (185lbs).. Should be great. Chuck wants to return and try to win the Lightheavyweight title again.. Just as Tito return to do in his loss to Forrest Griffen. As Dana White said during the announcement "I'm sure people would want to see Liddell VS Ortiz again".. I do. I hope Chuck destroys him again as well.. :D

I want to see Rampage VS Evans SOOOooo badly. However it's not looking like it will happen as Rampage got a role in a film version of "The A-Team".. /sadface/facepalm/firey rage...

Still wishing all the best to Brock lesnar.. I hope he gets well soon.

Kimbo's first official UFC bout wasn't all bad.. I was pretty impressed with some of what he did.. and laughed at the rest a little. He's working hard and it's paying off.

UFC 107 should also be great.. The three tops fights could all be main events, but the main is BJ Penn VS Diago Sanchez which should be amazing.. Uber excited for that on this coming Saturday.

Platinum

12-08-2009, 01:47 PM

Maawdawg

12-08-2009, 01:53 PM

Penn/Sanchez should be awesome, Guida/Floriain should be too. This is one of the better PPV cards they have had in a while.

Shaynard

12-08-2009, 01:56 PM

I have to intervene here Shaynard...

1. You're basically talking to yourself in here.
2. As Nigel already pointed out: You like watching half-naked men flop around on a mat.
3. Knowing #2, I'm not sure your time spent in this thread would be considered constructive "Me Time."

I'm sorry, man, sometimes friends have to step in. :(

1.. I know and I'm cool with it.
2.. Nigel is jealous: he wants to wreslte me. So do you. ;)
3.. Knowing #2 it is clear you are just speaking from your pit of jealousy as well.

But on a serious note. I think about it all everytime I post. But I post anyways because, well.. Screw you guys. :D Leave me alone with my half naked men trying to hurt eachother. Go play with your Long Anaconda..

Thanks for bein' my friend Platinum.. :)

DenyThisFlesh

12-08-2009, 02:55 PM

Penn/Sanchez should be awesome, Guida/Floriain should be too. This is one of the better PPV cards they have had in a while.

Agreed. I think Sanchez has a good chance at beating Penn, but it will be tough. Guida/Florian could go either way and should be a great fight as well. This is definitely better than most of their recent PPV cards.

Castrum

01-05-2010, 11:27 AM

While waiting for TNA to start last night, I watched a championship match between some Hughes dude and Georges St. Pierre (who I hear is referred to as GSP). For once, I was impressed with an MMA match; both combatants looked like strong champions (both in looks and in skill), they put on a fairly-long match (by comparison with others I have seen) that didn't devolve into mat-humping, and I thought the video intro for it set everything up very effectively. The finish, as with most non-scripted matches, came out of nowhere (which left it feeling kind of anti-climactic), but otherwise I thought it was an impressive fight.

THe biggest problem I had with it though, was that Hughes was constantly on the defensive. He still looked like a champion, but he wasn't fighting like one IMO.

Shaynard

01-05-2010, 03:34 PM

Their fights were good.. not my favorite but great fights none the less.. The UFC is taking A LOT from pro wrestling when it comes to presentation.. The way they scan the crowd is the same, camera angles are often similar.. and those pre-fight videos are very much like what they do in pro wrestling as well.. as you said "sets up the fight nicely".

This past weekend was a shot for the number one conteder slot for the lgiht heavyweight championship.. Machida must defend his title against Shogun this year, and the winner of this fight between Rachad Evans and Thiago Silva, gets a shot at the winner of that fight.

I suppose Brock lesnar won't be back for a while.. They have Frank Mir fighting Shane Carwin for the Interm title next month. I am also looking forward to seeing GSP fight Dan Hardy.

Castrum

01-05-2010, 04:03 PM

Rachad Evans and Thiago Silva

From what I saw online, didn't that fight already happen at UFC 108?

Shaynard

01-05-2010, 04:56 PM

Yes it was on January 2nd I believe.. this past weekend.. i watched it, was an interesting fight.

Rashad Evans won.. although his performance was "lack luster" IMO.. That said his job isn't to make the fight entertaining really, it's to win. Which he did.

Thiago ended up so frustrated Rashad wouldn't stand up and fight that he stood in front of him, mocking him, and hanging his head out asking to be hit.. Rashad never responded.. Rashad was ALMOSt knocked out in the third round, but Thiago ran out of time, and Rashad won on points from taking him down repeatedly.

Sorry I mentioned the fight and forgot to say who actually won the fight.. But it was this past weekend. A good night of fights although on paper it looked like a lame card. The fighters (besdies Evans) put on a great show.

( I don't mean to knock Evans either. He fought smart and got the win)

Maawdawg

01-11-2010, 07:09 PM

There is a UFC Fight Night Live on Spike TV tonight. Headline fight is Nick Diaz vs Grey Maynard which should be really good. It starts at 9pm EST.

Shaynard

01-12-2010, 12:06 PM

There is a UFC Fight Night Live on Spike TV tonight. Headline fight is Nick Diaz vs Grey Maynard which should be really good. It starts at 9pm EST.

The main event was LAME. The fights leading up to it were ok.. I was really happy watching Amir Saddolah .. That guy is hilarious.

Grey Maynard won the fight, by split decidsion.. Although it may as well have been a draw as niether fighter was very impressive. They said that it probably put Grey Maynard in a title fight with BJ Penn though.

Hulk Hogan is fighting Ric Flair at the next PPV: Relentless. Playing Hogan will be Randy Couture and playing Ric Flair will be Mark Coleman.. :D The winner gets a free box of Depends. hehehe.. I kid.

the rest of the fights that night should be good.

Maawdawg

01-12-2010, 12:13 PM

Shaynard

01-12-2010, 12:28 PM

The main event on that card is one of the weakest in recent memory. I don't think Maynard has much hope of beating Penn honestly. the UFC has problems right now because the 155-170-185 titles are all locked up by people that are far superior to the people below them on any given night. Penn-GSP-Silva respectively, all three look nearly unbeatable at their proper weights.

I don't see anyone at 155 being able to beat Penn unless BJ has a VERY bad night.. GSP also seems unbeatable by anyone at his weight, however I'll be able to guess that better after his next fight. Dan hardy is a hard hitting tough dude.. It's "possible" he could cause problems for GPS.

Silva... Well.. I'm not sure who can beat him. Vitor Belfort is who they are now hanging hopes on for providing Silva with a challenge, but only time will tell. Silva really should just go after the 205 title.. 205 is a deep weightclass.

Speaking of 205lbs... I get the rematch between Shogun and Machida sometime this year..

Oh.. and Chuck Liddell is back :rolleyes: .. He can beat Tito, we have seen him do so twice in very impressive fashion.. I think it's pretty lame they are gonna do it again. Hopefully after Chuck beats Tito senseless again, they will put him in with someone worth fighting. I would like to see him try to fight someone who beat him, like Shogun or Evans..

Maawdawg

01-12-2010, 01:34 PM

Chuck is way past his prime and his chin is suddenly suspect in the past 2 years so he could lose on any clean shot. That said, Tito doesn't have the tools to make it in the UFC in its current form. He made his name putting people on their backs and "ground and pounding" to wins. Everyone is too good at either wrestling or/and jitz to have that happen now. He hasn't even been able to take anyone down reliably in years and his stand up isn't on the same level as most people. He is basically the same fighter he has been since he stormed into the UFC, I haven't noticed any marked improvement in any facet of his skillset.

I honestly think Dana White just brought him back and is keeping him around because he likes watching him get beat up. I think they are keeping Chuck out of big fights against guys who beat him already because they don't want to send him into retirement yet. They don't want to prove he has lost that much off what he was a few years ago. They both are still around because their names put butts in the seats most of all though.

Shaynard

01-12-2010, 02:03 PM

Tito's return against Forrest validates everything you have said about him.. lol.

Chuck has been pretty much begging Dana to let him back. if you can read Dana's lips (also several blogs from people in the octagon at the time confirmed this) Dana told Chuck "thats it, you're done" after Shogun beat him for his second straight KO, before he even left the Octagon.. I think it's right to say they won't give him any really tough fights, only so that he can go out with a Win. He'll get that win against Tito most likely.

ANY fight can end with one clean shot however.. so nothings really ever for sure. That shot from either Evans or Shogun would have KO'd anyone in the UFC.. The trick is, getting out of the way of it.. which is what it seems Chuck needs to remember to do. Speaking of which, Did you see Mir KO Kongo? Who knew Mir could hit like that.. Also Mir looks huge and is now 265lbs of pure muscle. He REALLY wants to beat Brock, should Brock ever return.

I remember Evans saying something like: "He'd hit me and then kinda like Grunt at me as if to say "Why is this guy still here", once i took a few of them I knew all I had to do was hit him back and I could win"... and he certainly did.. lol

Shogun was taking shots from Chuck that looked no different than how Chuck has won all his fights.. But Shogun took them and returned them and Chuck went down again.

I agree with you regarding his chin, but add to it.. I don't think he's ever had a good chin, he's just never really been hit enough. He says he has improved his whole game to compensate.. I guess we'll get to see.

Castrum

01-13-2010, 04:45 PM

Randy Couture says Lesnar's training again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjH2WP_cOTI&feature=player_embedded#

Shaynard

01-13-2010, 04:52 PM

Randy's awesome.. Good news about Brock if it's fact. I hope so. :)

Castrum

01-20-2010, 02:58 PM

Brock Lesnar (confirmed by Dana White) to be returning this summer to fight whoever wins the Mir/Carwin fight.

Shaynard

01-20-2010, 03:21 PM

Brock Lesnar (confirmed by Dana White) to be returning this summer to fight whoever wins the Mir/Carwin fight.

So Mir VS Lesnar 3?.. lol... Thanks Castrum :)

Azsnas

01-20-2010, 04:43 PM

Still wishing all the best to Brock lesnar.. I hope he gets well soon.

what happened to brock?

Shaynard

01-20-2010, 04:46 PM

~UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar is seriously ill in hospital after collapsing in Canada, UFC president Dana White said Saturday.

"He's in rough shape, he's in really bad shape," White said Saturday after UFC 105.

"He is not well and he is not getting any better. ... He's very, very sick and he's going to be out for a while. He's got a lot of problems."

Citing mononucleosis, the 32-year-old Lesnar was forced to postpone a title fight against Shane Carwin scheduled for UFC 106 on Nov. 21 in Las Vegas. The fight was pushed back to UFC 108 on Jan. 2, but that too has been postponed.~

I haven't really heard exactly what went on... but this was the report at the time.. Thankfully he's got himself better.

Maawdawg

01-20-2010, 05:29 PM

SI article on Brock.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/josh_gross/01/20/lesnar.update/index.html?eref=sihp

Magnum

02-07-2010, 11:41 PM

Shay here's "Tommy aka Green Ranger" in debut MMA fight like I was talking about with you on XBL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d3PWWTBw5U&feature=player_embedded

Shaynard

02-07-2010, 11:53 PM

Dana White MUST Hire this guy... MUST!. :confused:

Maawdawg

05-08-2010, 03:24 PM

Shaynard

05-09-2010, 02:01 AM

Machida v Rua 2 tonight. I don't think I'll get to watch it but I am thoroughly enjoying The Ultimate Fighter marathon on Spike right now, I have missed most of this season so it is a nice refresher. I wonder if they have the undercard from the ppv on free TV tonight too?

They did yes...

I am SOOOOOO freaking happy right now!!!!

"And the NEWWW.. Light Heavy Weight Champion of the World..

" SHOGUN Rua!!!!!!!"

Hell yes!!!!! First round KO... Machida did the funky chicken.. Wonderful... Shogun had him done before the ref could even stop it.. and started walking away before the ref even got there.

Josh Koshieck (or however you spell his name) is a great actor. That fight was a disgrace. Josh acting like he was damn near knocked out from an illegal knee that MISSED his head as shown on all the replays, and actually caught Paul Daley in his own mouth.. He then proceeded to lay on Daley for the rest of the fight.. Daley actually punched him in the face after the final bell which took away any sympathy I had for Daley. Josh proved to be the better all around fighter by taking him down over and over again for the win.

Josh now moves onto a title shot against GSP, and the two will be the next TUF season coaches.

Shogun is definitely my favorite fighter other than Anderson Silva (I have followed Shoguns career much more closely, but Anderson is probably the better fighter.. the man's a real live Jedi when he wants to be.).. So I was very upset (as said in this thread) at the decision of the first fight, but this fight went exactly how I wanted it to go. :) To beat machida the way he did.. I am very impressed, and I already had a world of respect for him. For those who thought he was nothing when Forrest beat him, you should know he had six weeks to recover from double knee reconstructive surgery before that fight.. he "gased out" and Forrest got him. Since he beat Mark Coleman, Chuck Liddell and now Machida... Twice. ;) Before coming to the UFC.. he beat EVERYBODY in Pride. Even destroyed Rampage.

It is likely that the winner from the next PPV fight between Rampage and Evans will fight Rua next, but thats not set in stone yet. Machida and Anderson Silva being friends and training partners I wouldn't be surprised to see Anderson take a run at Rua. With how "mad" at Silva Dana White is I don't know what will happen with Silva, should he beat Chael Sonnen (which is highly likely).

OH... And Kimbo Slice is officially done in the UFC. Matt Mitrione made a mess of him all over the octagon. Kimbo looked pathetic. I was just watching the post fight press conference and they asked Dana if Kimbo would be back and he said "NO. We are going to cut him".

Maawdawg

05-09-2010, 09:42 AM

Mitrione is pretty underrated as a fighter. He is a complete idiot, which makes people think he should lose as soon as they hear him open his mouth. Kimbo with go overseas and take big money fights in Japan and other places that pay for the fighter and not the quality of the fight. He will be the new Tank Abbott. A journeyman who can't cut it in the highest levels but has character and a name so he will be able to live on the fringe very nicely.

The Koshcheck (?) v Daley fight doesn't surprise me at all. Josh has some of the best takedowns and wrestling in the UFC and if he feels like he is at risk standing he will just control someone and take the points win. In the pre-fight buildup you could see that those two actually hate each other. It wasn't just another fight to either of them.

They will definitely give Machida a rematch to finish the trilogy I think, but they both may have one fight inbetween that they would both need to win. it makes sense from a marketing standpoint to do it that way.

Kimbo is "probably" done.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/White-Slice-Probably-Out-the-UFCs-Door-24361

Daley is definitely gone.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/White-Kicks-Daley-Out-of-UFC-24359
“I don’t care if he fights in every show all over the world and becomes the best and everybody thinks he’s the pound-for-pound best in the world,” White said. “He will never fight in the UFC ever again.” - Dana White

Shaynard

05-09-2010, 01:29 PM

Mirtione is underrated because his first fight was on the TUF show. He is not yet training with a real camp, but he has some potential as a fighter. He looked sloppy out there like they pulled the guy off the street to fight. Kimbo is really just that bad. I am starting to think Houston Alexander was way overrated or he was paid to lose to Kimbo.. lol

The UFC doesn't give defeated Champs rematches. Machida will have to earn his way back to a title shot. To do so he will have to beat another top contender. I think the fear of Machida was what was letting him beat people. I've seen all his fights and he is a great fighter, but I don't think he is "as good" as he was made out to be. I would like to see him prove that statement wrong though.

There are so many contenders in the LHW division I have no idea who you could call the number one contender at this point.. Rampage VS Evans, Liddell VS Franklin, Dan henderson has talked about coming up to 205.. Jon "bones" Jones will make a run..

Silva was not going to step up to LHW but he trains with Machida and so didn't want to fight him. His plan was to skip to heavy weight.. We'll have to wait and see.

Josh is definitely a great wrestler with a fantastic "shot".. But GSP owns him in both based on the first time they fought. Josh's standup game has greatly improved (which is why i had hoped he'd stand up more with Daley) so it wouldn't surprise me if Josh can KO GSP. Either way, Josh is cocky and entertaining in that way.. Should make for a good TUF season and fight.

Shaynard

06-10-2010, 04:58 PM

No rematch for Machida...

Evan's beat Rampage and earned the next title shot against Shogun... I hope Shogun makes him tap if he tries that hugging BS he's pulled in his past two fights (which he's been known to do to wrestlers)... Otherwise Shogun is likely to knock him out anyways.. But anything can happen.

BJ Penn is getting a rematch with Frankie Edgar though, for the Lightweight Title. Gray Maynard sounded a little bitter about it... :D

Damn the UFC for making me watch TV to find out why Rich franklin replaced Tito for the fight against Chuck Liddell this weekend. Should be an interesting fight, more so than Liddell VS Ortiz 3 would have been.

The TUF Finale is next week. This season was decent.. I'm looking forward to the next season though. All seasons are online for free now at ultimatefighter.com if you need a good male soap opera with violence to watch other than professional wrestling. :D

Poor Diego Sanchez fans.. two fights in a row that kids just been brutalized.. :( Hopefully he can bounce back.

The last PPV also had a scene from a movie as a fight: heavyweights Mike Rosseux and Todd Dufee (Dufee has the UFC fastest KO record and looks like a freak of nature) Dufee pounded this guy in the head for three rounds then got tired in the third.. The guy who was getting his face beat in for the three round landed ONE punch and KO'd the freak of nature.. Joe Rogan said it best: "that was a movie, if you saw that in a movie you would say "Shut up that can't happen!!"". The Mike guy looked like Gary Busey (really!). It was like Gary Busey VS Arnold. Gary Busey KO'd Arnie with one punch after getting beaten down for three rounds..

Maawdawg

06-10-2010, 05:03 PM

The Franklin vs Iceman fight doesn't really interest me. Basically it is, "who is better out of these two guys who have both lost a step?". They are both all time great UFC guys but I don't see them as power players anymore.

I am MUCH more interested in that Cro Cop vs Barry fight on that card.
http://news.fightmagazine.com/ufc-115-liddell-vs-franklin-crocop-vs-barry-mma-5649/
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/242988/Mirko-Cro-Cop-vs-Pat-Barry-feature-video/

kouper

06-10-2010, 05:15 PM

Listened to a long Rampage interview yesterday on my way to work. He's actually a fairly humble dude. not the best speaker, if you only listen to his stuttering speech and accent he sounds quite unintelligent however once you get past that you start to think its just a mild speech impediment. He was asked about the fight with evans and he said "Ya know, I got my *** kicked, wasn't expecting that, but it happened and I've gotta get past that. I was expecting him to bang with me a little more, so next time I'll be ready to pound him on the ground as well as standing up. Either way, he beat me and that's how it is." Then he talked about the A-team and stuff... interesting dude.

Shaynard

06-10-2010, 05:21 PM

Franklin has been up and down.. Chuck looked like he was done, but then again.. he lost to Evan's who then won the title, and Shogun who then won the title.. Thats not really all that bad. franklin lost to Belfort who was coming in from a 8 fight win streak in PRIDE/Strikeforce.. So he had a) a lot to prove and b) a lot of momentum, and beating Franklin so quickly earned him a shot at Anderson, which he backed out from due to injury. Before that fight Franklin (who actually moved up from Middleweight now to 205 for the fight with Belfort) beat Wanderlei Silva pretty decisively at a catch weight 195.

Lost a step from being Champions perhaps, but as top level fighters.. thats what we would be finding out at this fight. Everyone thought Shogun fell off when Forrest beat him.. Now look what's happening. I thought Evan's was done when he fought Machida... Now he's got another title shot. To me whether they have actually lost a step or not is what makes this interesting.

Cro-cop.. now we're talking about missing a step.. lol. He hasn't had a good fight since he came to the UFC (even his wins). Pat Berry is likely to kill him IMO.. like for real, haha. I do like Cro-Cop's little promo clip "Right leg- Hospital.. Left leg - Cemetery".. :).. "Somebodies gonna getz hurt!!!"

I am not really that excited for either fight.. both should be "telling" regarding those four fighters career's.

Predictions for Lesnar VS Carwin? Silva VS Sonnen?

EDIT/ADD: In the promo video there, all the Cro Cop highlights are from PRIDE except a couple which were from the same UFC fight, where he did look alright, against a low level fighter. Berry should be in legal trouble Sunday morning.. :D

kouper: I agree regarding Rampage. he's a nice guy it seems from interviews and TUF. He took his loss like a man. Evan's just out fought him, although it made for a boring fight because rampage wasn't prepared.

Maawdawg

06-10-2010, 06:00 PM

I think Franklin isn't as good carrying the higher weight now. He did look good at that catch weight fight vs Silva, but I also thought Silva just looked bad, he was rigid and robotic. Franklin just jabbed away then popped in and out with Silva podding after him and telegraphing punches for 15 minutes.

Liddell didn't look good at all in the fights he lost, even before the knockouts. I think people have caught up to his style of "wait around and overhand right counterpunch" for a knockout. He still has great takedown defense but unless he changes up his strategy he may be on a downward trend for good.

Cro Cop looks like he has refocused but I think Barry will beat him too. You never know though Mirko could land a magic head kick and end it at any time still.

Lesnar v. Carwin: if Brock is healthy and has all his weight/cardio back I really have a hard time seeing anyone beating him. He is just so freaking big. Carwin may have a shot, out of the current "big" heavyweights I see him as the one with the best shot at it, better even than Cain Valasquez would I think.

Silva vs Sonnen: I think Silva comes out ready and angry after Dana White called him out after his last mess of a fight. I think he ends Sonnen's night, and quickly.

On one of the UFC Unleashed episodes this week they were saying that Silva wants to move up to heavyweight and fight Mir. I don't really understand why he would want to do that or why Mir would want to take that fight and possibly lose against a guy that gives about 50 pounds to him at their most effective weights. He said he would take the fight if it is offered though. :confused:

Shaynard

06-10-2010, 06:52 PM

Dude I would let Silva punch me out just to say I did.. I think Mir is thinking the same.. lol.. fighting Silva is almost a no loose situation, because if you get beat, you were supposed to, if you win.. then you're the man.

Chuck is a striker.. when you're a striker, you're bound to look bad at times. I have never been a fan of Chuck, although he is good at what he does. I don't know how he will do but everyone is talking about how good of shape and how focused he is.. So who knows.. Maybe Rich is right and he'll pull out something new.

The promo for every Cro Cop fight has been the same.. "Oh he's refocused.. he's still dangerous".. blah.. I can't disagree.. I'm just waiting to actually see it. Pat berry is scary though so either way it should be a fun fight.

I think you're right about Silva coming out crazy hard and making it a quick end to Sonnen.. Sonnen thinks he can 'put him on his prissy little ***" so we'll see..

Brock is a freak, but so are Carwin's punches.. I don't think Lesnar can take a shot from him, should he even get the chance to land one. I'm really curious to see how Cain can matchup against another powerful heavyweight..

Maawdawg

06-13-2010, 10:01 AM

I definitely should have bought that PPV last night. Franklin KOs Liddell in round 1 with a right hand while he has a broken left arm? I really think Chuck may be done now, 3 straight hard KOs, his chin is becoming more suspect with every match and there is no way he is going to be able to fight himself into title contention now, not for a long time, and he doesn't have a long time left in his career at 40 years old. Ortiz would have been a better and safer match for Chuck, I would have to assume this is the end of a HOF career, 14 months since his last fight and Dana has been asking him to retire for like 2 years now.

Cro Cop submits Barry in the 3rd (probably after Barry was long past gassed)? Never would have predicted that ending. :o

Yep, Dana says Chuck is done. Losses in 5 of his last 6 and 3 straight by KO, plus having to go to the hospital after this last one. Sounds like retirement to me.
http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/28127.html

Shaynard

06-14-2010, 04:06 PM

Just finished watching my third time through the PPV and it was definitely a great PPV IMO.

Cro-Cop shocked the hell out of me... Berry put him on his butt twice in the first round and Mirko's face was looking bad.. But Berry failed to capitalize.. He gave him too much respect, and approached it like a kickboxing match, allowing Cro cop to stand back up each time he knocked him down. They were hugging and slapping hands in between fighting.. it was pretty cool to see.

In the second round Mirko started coming back and took Berry down.. it was looking pretty impressive on Mirko's end on the ground, as expected. (Berry needs to develop a ground game to stay in the UFC) Then the third round Berry started to slow down a little.. and Mirko started to pick up, getting the advantage on the feet, then taking Berry down pounding on him and then locking in a rear naked choke for the win. I was pretty blown away, as I never expected Cro-Cop to take it to the ground even though he was losing the standing exchanges. I'd imagine this make the UFC really up the competition for Cro Cop in his next fight, possibly giving him a number one contender fight against someone like Cain... Although personally I would put my money on seeing him and Nogeria fighting sometime soon.

Chuck threw a body kick early in the fight with Franklin that broke his forearm. You could see the bones popping up.. but he kept throwing punches with it. Near the end of the first round after Franklin (IMO) had been winning the stand up fight, Chuck took him down, but Franklin got back up without trouble and somehow managed to cut Chuck open in the exchange. Chuck had landed a right hand that seemed to backup Franklin, then an elbow.. Rich circled away and landed one right in Chucks mouth (with the not broken arm) getting the KO. Rich looked really sharp all around and I was happy to see him get the KO. Joe Rogan asked if he'd have fought a second round and he said "pppft.. it's a broken arm, these people came to see a fight, of course I would have".

Martin Kampman (spelling?) looked excellent against Pablo Thiago.. it was really awesome to see a guy as dangerous as Pablo shut down so effectively. Martin's last "hiccup" was against Paul Daley, so I'd imagine Martin's next fight will be against a top contender to see who fights the winner of GSP VS Josh K.

Rory McDonald... Excellent showing!!! He had Carlos Condit's number in the first two rounds and it was brilliant... Carlos caught up with him in the third round though, got him down and was hurting him bad with elbows.. With a mere 9seconds left the ref decided to stop it... I personally thought it was a little premature, but I understood, as Rory WAS taking some bad shots and his face was pretty mangled. For a 20yro kid Rory is excellent, and will only get better.

Hell yes Chuck is done... and I'm not gonna cry about it either.. I hope Franklin gets a good shot in his next fight to make a title run at 205... He looked really good, again.

Shaynard

06-30-2010, 02:33 PM

Fedor Emelianenko has finally lost a fight.

'Strikeforce: Fedor vs Werdum' did not just surpass expectations, it absolutely smashed them. Such was the aura of invincibility surrounding Fedor Emelianenko that many are calling Fabricio Werdum’s submission victory the greatest mixed martial arts upset of all time

I wonder if this will make Dana and Joe bring Werdum back to the UFC?

I have never been a fan of this guy (Fedor) so it's interesting to see him lose finally.

Maawdawg

06-30-2010, 04:33 PM

At least one sport is banning vuvuzelas.
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5343197

Shaynard

07-04-2010, 01:35 PM

OK... Brock's a freak.. I will never bad mouth him again.

Carwin hit him.. and him him.. and hit him.. The Ref coulda/shoulda stopped the fight, but let it continue as Brock covered his head with his massive arms. Survived a Carwin beating, and tapped Carwin out in the second round.

Clearly he's a freak of nature.

SuperJay

08-27-2010, 01:10 PM

So apparently Canada wants to ban MMA?

http://www.wired.com/playbook/2010/08/canada-ban-mma/

At their annual meeting in Niagara Falls, members of the Canadian Medical Association voted to seek a ban (http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5495968) on mixed martial arts events within the country.

Speaking to the group’s governing body, internist Victor Dirnfeld (http://www.clinicbook.ca/dr-victor-dirnfeld), who was president of the CMA in the late ’90s, laid out the rationale for why Canada should be a leader in banning a sport he deems as “savage and brutal.”

“The aim is to disable and maim your opponent,” Dirnfeld told his colleagues (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/doctors-urge-mixed-martial-arts-ban/article1684539/). “We should not tolerate this so-called sport in a civilized society.”

Okay, but... um... hockey? (I get the differences, and I love hockey - but trying to ban one sport because it can result in some injuries while your national pastime isn't exactly as gentle as badminton is a little... confusing.) :)

Maawdawg

08-27-2010, 02:02 PM

Another uninformed person watching the early days of MMA makes a giant stink over it being barbaric? Not surprising, it really sounds like someone with a wrong notion of the sport and a grudge against it to me. It is better regulated than boxing and has a lesser risk of permanent injury. It is actually probably comparable Hockey or their CFL if you look at injuries over a career and I don't see him looking to ban those.

I love how boxing is the "sweet science" but MMA is "human cockfighting" to many of the people who have an issue with it. If anything boxing is the more dangerous sport. LOTS of people have died from boxing. LOTS. Not to mention the amount of people with severe brain issues later in life due to repeated cranial poundings.

SuperJay

08-27-2010, 02:24 PM

^ Right, exactly. Oddly enough, he's not a politician but he's talking like one - e.g. trying to enflame an issue to score some political points and look like he's being 'tough.'

And yeah, something tells me if you actually took a comprehensive, objective look at the injury stats for many accepted contact sports, MMA wouldn't stand out from the pack as being far worse for injuries.

Shaynard

09-02-2010, 04:23 PM

The amount of injuries is probably about equal to any other sport. The seriousness of those injuries may be far less. Every cut in the UFC is classed as an injury. Serious injuries in MMA are very infrequently caused by fights... Most come during training. Broken hands and orbital bones are the most common "serious" injuries in MMA. Most others like torn ACl's ect. are more frequent in other sports. I have seen every UFC and have them all on disc, and can think of less injuries in fights over 118 PPV's then there were in last years Playoff's in Hockey.

It should also be noted that most 'fight" commissions will suspend fighters for even just having a long fight.

Anderson Silva was suspended for 125 days after his last fight for going 5 hard rounds. << to prevent injury, something no other sport does. Most sports allow their "stars" to preform injured, which causes more injury permanent career ending injuries.

Now for my shout out at Frankie Edgar for beating BJ Penn a second time.. Way to go!!! Quite impressive.

HA HA James Toney.. Haha...

Because I missed it.. Wow Cheal.. So close.. too bad you weren't playing hand grenades.. But at least we know Anderson is human after all.

Maawdawg

09-02-2010, 04:38 PM

Yeah, the James Toney thing was pretty bad. I dont' think any other boxer would fare much differently though, under similar circumstances for training and initial competition.

Shaynard

09-02-2010, 04:55 PM

I expected a little more preparation on Toney's part. If you can't avoid a single leg take down you're definitely not going to do well in MMA.

I agree, other boxer's would do just as poorly against someone like Couture, with the same lack of training. That said, there is no excuse for Randy's short shorts.. :D

The main event for the next PPV is pretty unexciting.. Mir VS Cro Cop... meh. Bader VS Nogeria is a better fight IMO. The fight I'm looking forward to most on that card is Jeremy Steven VS Melvin Gullard... Should be good.

Maawdawg

09-22-2010, 07:02 PM

so, um, no Sonnen rematch. He is suspended for a year after failing both his post fight steroid tests after the Silva fight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5604439

They are putting Belfort in his place for the title fight. I like that matchup too.

Shaynard

09-26-2010, 02:32 PM

Mitrione is pretty underrated as a fighter.

I went back for this comment so I could concede to it.. lol. That was impressive.. Beltron is not a bad fighter and has always really impressed me. He had a record of 12-2 going in and had fought some top level guys.. and Mitrione looked great against him. Definitely want to see him against a top five guy now.

so, um, no Sonnen rematch. He is suspended for a year after failing both his post fight steroid tests after the Silva fight.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5604439

They are putting Belfort in his place for the title fight. I like that matchup too.

Nooooo... Thats a sad end to the Sonnen fight with Silva. I was really looking forward to a rematch, but Belfort VS Silva is a great matchup.. and possibly will be a more exciting fight. Belfort's hands are dangerous, and Silva in his last two fights has been hit by guys who shouldn't have hit him.. Sonnen rocked him on the feet, and even Damian Maia got a few shots on him in the last two rounds of their fight. If Silva is not a lot more sharp than he was in those two fights, Belfort could make his face hamburger in a hurry.

To be honest, I am unsure why they are giving Belfort this fight over someone like Nate Marquart. Only because it's been so long since Belfort fought (he's been injured since his fight with Franklin) and Nate is coming off a big win, and has been right on the door step since the first time he fought Silva a couple years ago now. I suppose the main reason for putting Belfort in that slot (and giving Nate the fight Belfort was supposed to have against Okami) would be because Nate has already lost one to Silva... The majority of the fans are likely more interested in seeing him fight someone new.

Last night PPV wasn't great. The best fight IMO was Sherk VS Dunham (and I feel Dunham may have won it, although it was very close) Mitrione's fight was also good, as was Lytle VS Serra...

Ryan "darth" Bader beat lil'nog which also impressed me.. He maintains a prefect record and takes a win over a top five light heavyweight.

I think the prelims were better than the main event.. lol

The next PPV is free on SPIKE TV. Can't wait to see Hardy VS Condit!!!!

Maawdawg

09-26-2010, 02:53 PM

That Mitrione comment was so old I hardly remember saying it. You could see he had good movement and hands back then it was just a matter of him actually not being insane, which was the big question back then.

I love the free Spike PPVs they normally fill the undercards with high energy guys and smaller weights to it stays action packed and can draw a wider audience than the "technical fighting fans". Smart move by then and it often gives some amazing nights of TV.

Shaynard

09-26-2010, 03:43 PM

Well I saw him on TUF and watched the fight with Kimbo a couple times, and he never really seemed like he was that solid. It almost seemed flukie.. lol. He has tightened up a great deal, and I was wrong before saying he wasn't with a "real" camp, as he did train with Duke Rufus before that Kimbo fight and is still at that camp. (a very good camp IMO)

That little bit of insane may be what makes him a great fighter one day... if he continues to improve, he seems to have the chin, his hands are quick as hell, and he's determined... SO I see him doing well.

The Bisping VS Akiyama fight should be good too.. Akiyama's fights in the UFC have all been exciting so far.. Definitely one of the best Asian stars to make his way to the UFC. Over all it does seem like an action packed card. Hardy and Condit REALLY excites me.

Shaynard

10-16-2010, 02:04 PM

For anyone interested in UFC.. UFC 120 is FREE on SPIKE tv today, starting at 8pm. SPIKE is running Unleashed all day as well, which features fights from various past UFC events.

The main event is Micheal Bisping VS Yoshihiro Akiyama. I am expecting Bisping to win, but it is likely to be a tough fight.

The fight to watch is Dan Hardy VS Carlos Condit... This should be an excellent fight, and is one I have been looking forward to since announced. The other notable fight for me is Mike Pyle VS John Hathoway.. Hathoway is the guy who destroyed Diago Sanchez a short while ago, when Diago stepped back up to Welterweight after losing to BJ at lightweight.

Maawdawg

10-16-2010, 02:26 PM

I will be watching this tonight. I really want to see the Condit/Hardy fight as well.

Shaynard

10-16-2010, 02:36 PM

I`ll be on LIVE, we should have a viewing party.. lol

Jurgy

10-24-2010, 10:34 AM

So did anyone catch the Lesner/Velasquez fight? Totally blown away. Could not even believe Lesner got his *** beat that bad. He came out the gate like a ****ing BULL... but I think he came into the fight a little to confident. I think he will learn a lot from this and train a bit harder, and I bet money he'll get that belt back very soon.

The fight of the night was totally Diego Sanchez. That mother ****er was beasting that whole fight. I mean damn... he picked that dude up, ran, JUMPED, and slammed him to the mat hard as hell. The whole fight was just great.

Maawdawg

10-24-2010, 11:40 AM

Diego always puts on a good show, win or lose. I don't think Brock came in overconfident, they are both really good fighters. I was happy that Brock didn't make excuses or complain in his post fight interview. Basically "He was better, he beat my ***" and that was it. It showed some class that he hadn't shown before after pretty much any of his other wins (or losses for that matter).

I was happy to see Matt Hammell beat Ortiz too. Hopefully that will drive a stake into him finally and we won't have to see him back. He hasn't had a good win in half a decade. The Hammer is one of my favorites, pretty amazing fighter but still really needs to work on his submission skills. Always fun to watch though.

Shaynard

10-25-2010, 03:02 AM

Just finished my usual multiple viewing of the PPV.. and .. excellent card.

Dieago did VERY well.. I find Thiago terrifying.. lol.

Cain is the man... Excellent job.. he almost got caught up in the brawl for a second, but calmed himself down and won the fight. Lesnar didn't look horrible either.. he is indeed getting better, apparent even in this loss. I was VERY happy to see Cain win, and Brock loose well.

Jake Shields debut obviously could have been better. I'm not sure how much can be blamed on the weight cut and conditioning.. but I'm sure he wasn't 100% considering either. Kampmann did a great job of defending on the ground.. but as Dana White said "he blew it'. Didn't do enough standing where he could, and really just seemed to want to beat him at his own game, which just didn't work for him.. He continued to try for that choke.. Oh well.. I just hope Kampmann gets to fight again.

Very impressed with Brenden Schaub... I truly though Gabe would crush him.

Cain VS Junior is going to be BA!!!!

UFC and MMA are so much better than boxing is and IMO has ever been.

Maawdawg

10-25-2010, 08:56 AM

I second that notion on Schaub he was good on his season of TUF but he is on a whole other level right now though. His problem is that his natural weight keeps him at the lower end of the heavyweight scale. I can't see him beating Valasquez or Lesnar just because they are so much bigger than him at their natural weights. Brock cuts like 20 pounds to get to the heavyweight top at 265. Schaub is like a natural 230 or at least in that ballpark.

Jurgy

10-25-2010, 09:40 AM

I was very much pulling for Brock. He's a freaking bull man. But yeah, he did take the defeat like a man, admit he got his *** beat, and I very much see him holding the title again in the near future. I think he can take a lot from this fight, work on it, train harder, and turn it around. Even the best need to be humbled from time to time... hopefully this will make him rethink all the **** talking he was doing pre-fight.

Shaynard

10-25-2010, 02:21 PM

Yeah Schaub isa bit small... but he has some room to pack on some meat still as well. Cain is only 240, but seems to be a different beast.

Brock's trash talk was actually pretty tame this time around, it just seemed like confidence (which is deserved IMO). You are likely right though Jurgy, it will make him rethink the way he's been talking.. It's good for hjim.. He will become a better fighter hopefully.

Maawdawg

10-25-2010, 05:22 PM

I missed this last night. The Undertaker post fight reaction and staredown of Brock. The "You wanna do it?" didn't exactly sound like a in invite to get drinks after, more like want to meet in the alley...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHtxPew5Os

Shaynard

10-26-2010, 12:30 AM

Well... that was interesting.. :o

Jurgy

10-28-2010, 09:35 AM

In a scripted, fake WWE match... the Undertaker might take him. In a legit, UFC match, Brock would probably EAT the Undertaker's heart while it's still beating in his chest... just saying.

Shaynard

10-28-2010, 11:57 AM

In a scripted, fake WWE match... the Undertaker might take him. In a legit, UFC match, Brock would probably EAT the Undertaker's heart while it's still beating in his chest... just saying.

Possibly.. but in a street fight... Taker would eat his soul... :)

Shadow Symbosis

10-28-2010, 03:20 PM

possibly.. But in a street fight... Taker would eat his soul... :)

i agree shay rest in peace!!!!!!!

Maawdawg

10-28-2010, 04:57 PM

WEC/UFC merging next year. That should fill out the UFC nicely with some great lightweight talents. Better PPV cards for everyone!
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5737833

Jurgy

10-29-2010, 10:55 AM

WEC/UFC merging next year. That should fill out the UFC nicely with some great lightweight talents. Better PPV cards for everyone!
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=5737833

Agreed 100% I love lightweight fights... super fast. Great ****!

And true story on the soul eating!

Maawdawg

10-29-2010, 12:49 PM

Not only do they get a bunch of quality lightweights by folding in WEC they are going to add the two entire small weight classes that were in that company. Lightweight was already super-competitive in the UFC. With WEC guys like Henderson, Varner, Roller, Pettis, and Lamas (among others) coming into a division already loaded up with people like Edgar, Penn, Florian, Maynard, Sherk, Guida, Diaz (and a whole bunch more) it is going to be insane. They would probably be able to do entire PPVs with just lightweight fights. I can't wait for some of the matchups those lists allow.

Throw in the 135 and 145 pound classes and this gets even better.

Also, this tidbit.

"Additionally, White announced that the UFC just penned a new contract with Versus to air four events on the network in 2011. "

That means there will be 4 live Versus events next year on top of the live free UFC cards on Spike. So sweet!

Shaynard

10-29-2010, 01:45 PM

All great news... Can't wait to see Aldo and Henderson in the UFC.. Aldo is awesome.. Anyone see him fight Gambuyan?.. he's a wizard.

There have been rumours floating around about the UFC adding weight classes.. Some had thought it would be add in between existing weights... Like a 165lb and 195lb... Although it seems this is probably the "root" of those rumours.

Taker said he is trying to manage some fighters... ??? ... sounds like a "cover" to me. ;)

Shaynard

10-30-2010, 05:23 PM

Ryan "darth" Vader VS Jon "bones" Jones has been confirmed.. Should be an excellent fight.

It appears the taker VS Brock thing was planting a seed for a Wrestling match in the WWE.

Dubbabubba

11-12-2010, 06:42 PM

Bader v Jones is tough to call. Bader has size/strength, Jones has technique and range. It's a toss up for me.

Shaynard

11-13-2010, 06:29 AM

Bader v Jones is tough to call. Bader has size/strength, Jones has technique and range. It's a toss up for me.

Agreed.. I like Jones but I feel I've seen Bader tested a bit more so far (its tough to say really), so a part of me leans towards Bader.. But, Jones has that X-factor about him in his creativity. If properly used, he can be brilliant. He has also had some close calls in his earlier fights. Both are improving a ton still, so either way it works out, it will be a good fight to watch, and a great fight to see where they are both at.

What do you guys think will happen with the upcoming Rampage VS Machida fight? Or Edgar VS Maynard?

Matt Hughes VS BJ Penn sort of annoys me.. If BJ losses it will be bad news. I still have a hard time visualizing BJ beating Hughes again without commiting to submitting him from his (BJ's) back. (something he doesn't usually try to do even when it trouble)

Ben Henderson VS the winner of Maynard VS Edgar?... Yes please!! Also can't wait to see Aldo in the UFC. Curious to see which 155'ers step down to 145 or lower.

Rumors of Lesnar VS Nelson have been going around since the last title fight... I hope Lesnar decides not to take time off.

Shaynard

11-22-2010, 05:52 AM

So BJ puts out Hughes within a minute, and Rampage beats Machida BY decidsion... really didn't see that coming.

Jose Aldo is now officially the UFC featherweight Champion and has his first fight in the UFC January 1st. Can't wait.

Maawdawg

11-22-2010, 09:13 AM

I really can't wait for those lightweight cards, they are so action packed. It will fill out the UFC PPV cards nicely. I couldn't have called any of those matches from the PPV Saturday, which is good, I guess. That is what the matchmaker is going for. I definitely didn't see Rampage winning if it went to the judges I figured Machida by decision or Rampage early by KO.

At least Penn beat Hughes so he won't be backburnered by the UFC. I like watching him fight. It still leads to the problem of where he fights. 155 just got even more competitive with the WEC additions, he may be smarter to stay at 170 even though he can't beat GSP. Tough call for him I think there are people better than him in each weight class.

Shaynard

11-22-2010, 09:29 AM

Dana keeps saying he likes BJ at 170.. and BJ said he'd leave his next fight up to Dana "for the first time in 10yrs". So I figure at least one more at 170.

With all the new 155'er coming up within the UFC, and in from WEC, I am not sure Penn really fits in at 155 anymore. Then again thats based on how Frank Edgar was just too fast for him. So it's a toss up. 170's seem too big as well.. but then he did just knock Hughes on his butt, who is a big 170, but not the biggest. I want to seem him against another top 170 contender. I would freakin' love to see him fight someone like Thiago Alves, or John Fitch -someone of that caliber. (although fitch gets the winner of the next Welter Title fight)

Phil davis looked great again.. he's gonna be one to watch for sure.

George Sotiropolous also looked great, and that was my favotire fight of the night. I hope they do make the fight with him VS Denis Siver.. Would be a good test for both of them.

Amir Soddallah won again at 122... Love that guy.. lol

Aldo's fight is the same night as Edgar VS Maynard.. Both should be aesome fights.

At the post fight presser, someone asked a question asking basically, if Dana thought UFC could be as big as WWF in it's heyday.. Obviously people aren't paying attention. UFC is bigger than that already, and still gaining fast. He said there would be about 30 cards in 2011.

Shaynard

02-06-2011, 04:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH657NFXUxg

FoxbaT

02-07-2011, 10:21 AM

Wow that was really something! I'm not a great fan of MMA and UFC stuff but that fight I was interested for, two great players, and to be honest I though that the fight would take more than one round but who would know that Anderson would pull out that kick?

God damn! It looked like that kicks that normally ends up in the chest, and I think that this is why Belfort didn't seem to bother when Anderson started the movement and then BANG! That should hurt!!

It's interesting how the cranium built makes the chin such a sensitive point

At the end of the fight Anderson thanked his master, Steven Seagal, for teaching him the kick

http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/steven-seagal-4-21-10.jpg

Yes, that's right, beware!!! :)

Cheers guys!

Shaynard

02-07-2011, 10:32 AM

I didn't hear it before, although I said it myself.. and some of the press said the same in the post fight conference... "it could have been a 5 round staring match". That is one version of how I thought it would go. I figured if it wasn't them dancing , then the fight would end quickly one way or another. But yes, who knew Anderson was going to do THAT? Amazing really.

If GSP beats Jake Shields in April, he's going to move up to 185lbs to fight Anderson Silva. He may get kicked in the face. LOL

Jon Jones, beat Ryan Bader and because Rashad Evans got injured, the UFC gave Jon Jones his title shot against Shogun Rua (another fantastic Brazilian fighter - one of my personal favorites) ... and I think jon Jones may just destroy Shogun.. but we'll see.. Shogun can be surprising.

Forrest griffen beat Jim Carey.. oops.. I mean Rich Franklin.

Maawdawg

02-07-2011, 10:38 AM

Shaynard

02-07-2011, 10:45 AM

I read all the sherdog and espn coverage first thing Sunday morning and instantly regretted not watching the PPV. I still haven't seen the kick but I will hunt around for it later today when I get a chance.

The whole fight is above.. it was short so it's still on youtube for some reason. (for now)

Maawdawg

02-07-2011, 10:50 AM

It is gone. I'll find it somewhere else though.

Shaynard

02-07-2011, 10:52 AM

It is gone. I'll find it somewhere else though.

Basitids!!!! I knew it was only a matter of time. Torrent was easy to find.. shhhhhhh.

FoxbaT

02-14-2011, 01:53 PM

Shogun is a hot name, it will be at least a good fight, that's for sure

Not really a big fan of UFC and stuff but if there are brazilians competing then I praise this guys.

I'm sure they had to overcome a lot of barriers to be with the bests

Shaynard

02-14-2011, 10:08 PM

If it wasn't for Brazilians MMA may never have got off the ground actually Fox.

The first few UFC's were dominated by a Brazilian. They call him the godfather of MMA often. Royce Gracie. Marco Ruas, Vitor Belfort, Shogun, Anderson, Wanderlei, Machida.... The list of great brazilian fighters goes on forever really.. Your country almost founded this sport, and Dana White reminds people of that often.

FoxbaT

02-15-2011, 12:08 AM

I remember of Royce Gracie and the first series of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, I was way younger and I remember of spending the night awake to watch him win the fights. It was a good feeling since we have just lost another great brazilian sportsman. Then I started going out at nights and stopped seeing the UFC.

This is like back in 96, 98 I guess?

Take care Shane

Maawdawg

02-15-2011, 08:35 AM

I think that was actually probably 94 or 95. I was still in high school when I watched those, iirc. The whole original UFC tournament was Royce Gracie's father's idea initially.

Shaynard

02-15-2011, 09:04 AM

I think that was actually probably 94 or 95. I was still in high school when I watched those, iirc. The whole original UFC tournament was Royce Gracie's father's idea initially.

The Ultimate Fighting Championship (later renamed UFC 1: The Beginning) was the first mixed martial arts event by the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), held at the McNichols Sports Arena in Denver, Colorado, on November 12, 1993. The event was broadcast live on pay-per-view and later released on home video

I was thinking '94 also. :) Close.

Fox.. UFC had one event I remember in Brazil, and are planning another one for Rio this year (they hope).

In 1992, inspired by the Gracies in Action video-series produced by the Gracies and featuring Gracie jiu-jitsu defeating various martial-arts masters, Davie proposed to Rorion Gracie and John Milius an eight-man, single-elimination tournament with a title of War of the Worlds. The tournament would feature martial artists from different disciplines facing each other in no-holds-barred combat to determine the best martial art and would aim to replicate the excitement of the matches Davie had seen on the videos.[14] Milius, a noted film director and screenwriter, as well as a Gracie student, agreed to be the event's creative director. Davie drafted the business plan and twenty-eight investors contributed the initial capital to start WOW Promotions with the intent to develop the tournament into a television franchise.[15]

In 1993 WOW Promotions sought a television partner and approached pay-per-view producers TVKO (HBO), SET (Showtime) and the Semaphore Entertainment Group (SEG). Both TVKO and SET declined, but SEG – a pioneer in pay-per-view television which had produced such off-beat events as a mixed-gender tennis match between Jimmy Connors and Martina Navratilova – became WOW's partner in May 1993.[16] SEG contacted video and film art-director, Jason Cusson, in order to design the trademarked "Octagon," a signature piece for the event. Cusson remained the Production Designer through UFC 27.[14] SEG devised the name for the show as The Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Kenny Florian dropped to 145lbs... GOOD!